How to evaluate the limit where something is raised to a power of $x$?Intuitive explanation for why...

The need of reserving one's ability in job interviews

GPL code private and stolen

Ahoy, Ye Traveler!

Why is it "take a leak?"

What is the meaning of "notice to quit at once" and "Lotty points”

Relationship between the symmetry number of a molecule as used in rotational spectroscopy and point group

Being asked to review a paper in conference one has submitted to

I can't die. Who am I?

PTIJ: Why can't I sing about soda on certain days?

Can the Shape Water Cantrip be used to manipulate blood?

I've given my players a lot of magic items. Is it reasonable for me to give them harder encounters?

Wardrobe above a wall with fuse boxes

Should I use HTTPS on a domain that will only be used for redirection?

Create chunks from an array

Why are special aircraft used for the carriers in the United States Navy?

How can I handle a player who pre-plans arguments about my rulings on RAW?

How to fix my table, centering of columns

Why do phishing e-mails use faked e-mail addresses instead of the real one?

How to disable or uninstall iTunes under High Sierra without disabling SIP

Is there a way to find out the age of climbing ropes?

How to get the first element while continue streaming?

It doesn't matter the side you see it

Are there other characters in the Star Wars universe who had damaged bodies and needed to wear an outfit like Darth Vader?

Correct physics behind the colors on CD (compact disc)?



How to evaluate the limit where something is raised to a power of $x$?


Intuitive explanation for why $left(1-frac1nright)^n to frac1e$About $lim left(1+frac {x}{n}right)^n$Finding the limit of $left( 1-frac{1}{n} right)^{n}$Showing that $lim_{n rightarrow infty} left( 1 + frac{r}{n} right)^{n} = e^{r} $.Limit of $left(1+frac{a}{x}right)^x$ with and without L'Hôpital's ruleLimit of power series $ left(1+frac{x}{m}right)^m$ with m tending to infinity$Delta x$ in limit problem?Help to evaluate this limit $lim_{x to infty}x^{frac{1}{x}}$How to evaluate this exponential fraction limit?Understanding how to evaluate $lim_{xtofracpi2} frac{2^{-cos x}-1}{x-fracpi2}$How to evaluate the following complex limit?How to evaluate integrals with infinite limitsHow to evaluate $lim_{xto infty} (x^2cdotint_{0}^x e^{t^3-x^3} dt)$Evaluate limit without L'Hopital's ruleEvaluate: $lim_limits{xto3}frac{sin(x+1)}{2x(x-3)}$Using power series to evaluate a limit













7












$begingroup$


I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:



$$lim_{xto infty} Biggl(frac{x+3}{x+8}Biggl)^x$$



I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.



I have found the answer to be $frac{1}{e^5}$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.










share|cite|improve this question









New contributor




jfkdasjfk is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$








  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
    $endgroup$
    – John Wayland Bales
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
    $endgroup$
    – Xander Henderson
    17 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac {x}{n}right)^n$
    $endgroup$
    – Xander Henderson
    17 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Mummert
    16 hours ago
















7












$begingroup$


I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:



$$lim_{xto infty} Biggl(frac{x+3}{x+8}Biggl)^x$$



I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.



I have found the answer to be $frac{1}{e^5}$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.










share|cite|improve this question









New contributor




jfkdasjfk is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$








  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
    $endgroup$
    – John Wayland Bales
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
    $endgroup$
    – Xander Henderson
    17 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac {x}{n}right)^n$
    $endgroup$
    – Xander Henderson
    17 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Mummert
    16 hours ago














7












7








7


0



$begingroup$


I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:



$$lim_{xto infty} Biggl(frac{x+3}{x+8}Biggl)^x$$



I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.



I have found the answer to be $frac{1}{e^5}$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.










share|cite|improve this question









New contributor




jfkdasjfk is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$




I am attempting to evaluate the following limit:



$$lim_{xto infty} Biggl(frac{x+3}{x+8}Biggl)^x$$



I was wondering if anyone could share some strategies for evaluating limits raised to a power of $x$, as I have never encountered these before.



I have found the answer to be $frac{1}{e^5}$, but I am unsure how to arrive at this answer.







calculus limits






share|cite|improve this question









New contributor




jfkdasjfk is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











share|cite|improve this question









New contributor




jfkdasjfk is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question








edited 17 hours ago









Xander Henderson

14.8k103555




14.8k103555






New contributor




jfkdasjfk is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









asked yesterday









jfkdasjfkjfkdasjfk

414




414




New contributor




jfkdasjfk is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





New contributor





jfkdasjfk is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.






jfkdasjfk is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.








  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
    $endgroup$
    – John Wayland Bales
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
    $endgroup$
    – Xander Henderson
    17 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac {x}{n}right)^n$
    $endgroup$
    – Xander Henderson
    17 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Mummert
    16 hours ago














  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
    $endgroup$
    – John Wayland Bales
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
    $endgroup$
    – Xander Henderson
    17 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac {x}{n}right)^n$
    $endgroup$
    – Xander Henderson
    17 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Mummert
    16 hours ago








4




4




$begingroup$
Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
$endgroup$
– John Wayland Bales
yesterday




$begingroup$
Try taking the limit of the logarithm of the expression.
$endgroup$
– John Wayland Bales
yesterday












$begingroup$
This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
$endgroup$
– Xander Henderson
17 hours ago






$begingroup$
This question has been asked and answered here before: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) (just to name a few; found with Approach0.
$endgroup$
– Xander Henderson
17 hours ago














$begingroup$
Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac {x}{n}right)^n$
$endgroup$
– Xander Henderson
17 hours ago




$begingroup$
Possible duplicate of About $lim left(1+frac {x}{n}right)^n$
$endgroup$
– Xander Henderson
17 hours ago












$begingroup$
It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
$endgroup$
– Carl Mummert
16 hours ago




$begingroup$
It seems to be contradictory that you say you found the answer, but don't know how to find the answer.
$endgroup$
– Carl Mummert
16 hours ago










6 Answers
6






active

oldest

votes


















17












$begingroup$

Hint. Note that
$$Biggl({x+3over x+8}Biggl)^x=frac{(1+frac{3}{x})^x}{(1+frac{8}{x})^x}.$$
Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
$$lim_{xto infty}(1+frac{a}{x})^x=lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^{ta}=left(lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^t=e$.






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    Thank you this helped a lot!
    $endgroup$
    – jfkdasjfk
    yesterday



















9












$begingroup$

$$=lim_{xto infty} (1-frac{5}{x})^x$$
$$=lim_{xto infty} e^{xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
$$=e^{lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
Now in order to evaluate
$$=lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}$$
$$=lim_{xto infty} frac{ln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}{(frac{1}{x})}$$
One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
$$=lim_{xto infty} frac{(frac{frac{5}{x^2}}{1-frac{5}{x}})}{(-frac{1}{x^2})}$$
$$=lim_{xto infty} (-frac{5}{1-frac{5}{x}})$$
$$=-5$$
Hence the initial limit is
$$e^{-5}=frac{1}{e^5}$$






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$





















    2












    $begingroup$

    Hint:



    Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



    $$left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)^x=exp xln left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)$$






    share|cite|improve this answer









    $endgroup$





















      2












      $begingroup$

      Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac {u-5}u)^{u-8} = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^{[1]}$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^{-5v}=(( 1+frac 1v)^{v})^{-5}$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^{v}$ goes to $e$.



      [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u} left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.






      share|cite|improve this answer











      $endgroup$













      • $begingroup$
        In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x-8}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right)=lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
        $endgroup$
        – Pedro
        yesterday



















      1












      $begingroup$

      This is an indeterminate form $1^{infty}$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



      Writing the limit as



      $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



      $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x=lim_{xtoinfty}left(left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{x/f(x)}=left(lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}
      \=e^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}.$$





      In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$






      share|cite|improve this answer











      $endgroup$













      • $begingroup$
        What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
        $endgroup$
        – aschepler
        yesterday










      • $begingroup$
        @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
        $endgroup$
        – Yves Daoust
        21 hours ago





















      1












      $begingroup$

      A common strategy for limits $lim_{xto c}f(x)^{g(x)}$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
      $$
      lim_{xto c}log(f(x)^{g(x)})=lim_{xto c}g(x)log f(x)
      $$

      If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



      In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
      $$
      lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}
      $$

      after noticing that
      $$
      frac{frac{1}{t}+3}{frac{1}{t}+8}=frac{1+3t}{1+8t}
      $$

      This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
      $$
      h'(t)=frac{3}{1+3t}-frac{8}{1+8t}
      $$

      the limit is $3-8=-5$.



      Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
      $$
      lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}=
      lim_{tto0^+}frac{3t-8t+o(t)}{t}=-5
      $$

      Thus your limit is $e^{-5}$.






      share|cite|improve this answer









      $endgroup$













        Your Answer





        StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
        return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
        StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
        StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
        });
        });
        }, "mathjax-editing");

        StackExchange.ready(function() {
        var channelOptions = {
        tags: "".split(" "),
        id: "69"
        };
        initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

        StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
        // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
        if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
        StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
        createEditor();
        });
        }
        else {
        createEditor();
        }
        });

        function createEditor() {
        StackExchange.prepareEditor({
        heartbeatType: 'answer',
        autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
        convertImagesToLinks: true,
        noModals: true,
        showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
        reputationToPostImages: 10,
        bindNavPrevention: true,
        postfix: "",
        imageUploader: {
        brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
        contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
        allowUrls: true
        },
        noCode: true, onDemand: true,
        discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
        ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
        });


        }
        });






        jfkdasjfk is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










        draft saved

        draft discarded


















        StackExchange.ready(
        function () {
        StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3136503%2fhow-to-evaluate-the-limit-where-something-is-raised-to-a-power-of-x%23new-answer', 'question_page');
        }
        );

        Post as a guest















        Required, but never shown

























        6 Answers
        6






        active

        oldest

        votes








        6 Answers
        6






        active

        oldest

        votes









        active

        oldest

        votes






        active

        oldest

        votes









        17












        $begingroup$

        Hint. Note that
        $$Biggl({x+3over x+8}Biggl)^x=frac{(1+frac{3}{x})^x}{(1+frac{8}{x})^x}.$$
        Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
        $$lim_{xto infty}(1+frac{a}{x})^x=lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^{ta}=left(lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
        where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^t=e$.






        share|cite|improve this answer









        $endgroup$













        • $begingroup$
          Thank you this helped a lot!
          $endgroup$
          – jfkdasjfk
          yesterday
















        17












        $begingroup$

        Hint. Note that
        $$Biggl({x+3over x+8}Biggl)^x=frac{(1+frac{3}{x})^x}{(1+frac{8}{x})^x}.$$
        Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
        $$lim_{xto infty}(1+frac{a}{x})^x=lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^{ta}=left(lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
        where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^t=e$.






        share|cite|improve this answer









        $endgroup$













        • $begingroup$
          Thank you this helped a lot!
          $endgroup$
          – jfkdasjfk
          yesterday














        17












        17








        17





        $begingroup$

        Hint. Note that
        $$Biggl({x+3over x+8}Biggl)^x=frac{(1+frac{3}{x})^x}{(1+frac{8}{x})^x}.$$
        Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
        $$lim_{xto infty}(1+frac{a}{x})^x=lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^{ta}=left(lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
        where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^t=e$.






        share|cite|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        Hint. Note that
        $$Biggl({x+3over x+8}Biggl)^x=frac{(1+frac{3}{x})^x}{(1+frac{8}{x})^x}.$$
        Moreover, for $anot=0$, after letting $t=x/a$ we have that
        $$lim_{xto infty}(1+frac{a}{x})^x=lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^{ta}=left(lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^tright)^a=e^a.$$
        where we used the limit which defines the Napier's constant $e$: $lim_{tto infty}left(1+frac{1}{t}right)^t=e$.







        share|cite|improve this answer












        share|cite|improve this answer



        share|cite|improve this answer










        answered yesterday









        Robert ZRobert Z

        99.6k1068140




        99.6k1068140












        • $begingroup$
          Thank you this helped a lot!
          $endgroup$
          – jfkdasjfk
          yesterday


















        • $begingroup$
          Thank you this helped a lot!
          $endgroup$
          – jfkdasjfk
          yesterday
















        $begingroup$
        Thank you this helped a lot!
        $endgroup$
        – jfkdasjfk
        yesterday




        $begingroup$
        Thank you this helped a lot!
        $endgroup$
        – jfkdasjfk
        yesterday











        9












        $begingroup$

        $$=lim_{xto infty} (1-frac{5}{x})^x$$
        $$=lim_{xto infty} e^{xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
        $$=e^{lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
        Now in order to evaluate
        $$=lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}$$
        $$=lim_{xto infty} frac{ln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}{(frac{1}{x})}$$
        One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
        $$=lim_{xto infty} frac{(frac{frac{5}{x^2}}{1-frac{5}{x}})}{(-frac{1}{x^2})}$$
        $$=lim_{xto infty} (-frac{5}{1-frac{5}{x}})$$
        $$=-5$$
        Hence the initial limit is
        $$e^{-5}=frac{1}{e^5}$$






        share|cite|improve this answer









        $endgroup$


















          9












          $begingroup$

          $$=lim_{xto infty} (1-frac{5}{x})^x$$
          $$=lim_{xto infty} e^{xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
          $$=e^{lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
          Now in order to evaluate
          $$=lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}$$
          $$=lim_{xto infty} frac{ln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}{(frac{1}{x})}$$
          One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
          $$=lim_{xto infty} frac{(frac{frac{5}{x^2}}{1-frac{5}{x}})}{(-frac{1}{x^2})}$$
          $$=lim_{xto infty} (-frac{5}{1-frac{5}{x}})$$
          $$=-5$$
          Hence the initial limit is
          $$e^{-5}=frac{1}{e^5}$$






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$
















            9












            9








            9





            $begingroup$

            $$=lim_{xto infty} (1-frac{5}{x})^x$$
            $$=lim_{xto infty} e^{xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
            $$=e^{lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
            Now in order to evaluate
            $$=lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}$$
            $$=lim_{xto infty} frac{ln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}{(frac{1}{x})}$$
            One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
            $$=lim_{xto infty} frac{(frac{frac{5}{x^2}}{1-frac{5}{x}})}{(-frac{1}{x^2})}$$
            $$=lim_{xto infty} (-frac{5}{1-frac{5}{x}})$$
            $$=-5$$
            Hence the initial limit is
            $$e^{-5}=frac{1}{e^5}$$






            share|cite|improve this answer









            $endgroup$



            $$=lim_{xto infty} (1-frac{5}{x})^x$$
            $$=lim_{xto infty} e^{xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
            $$=e^{lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}$$
            Now in order to evaluate
            $$=lim_{xto infty} xln{(1-frac{5}{x})}$$
            $$=lim_{xto infty} frac{ln{(1-frac{5}{x})}}{(frac{1}{x})}$$
            One can use L'Hôpitals rule giving
            $$=lim_{xto infty} frac{(frac{frac{5}{x^2}}{1-frac{5}{x}})}{(-frac{1}{x^2})}$$
            $$=lim_{xto infty} (-frac{5}{1-frac{5}{x}})$$
            $$=-5$$
            Hence the initial limit is
            $$e^{-5}=frac{1}{e^5}$$







            share|cite|improve this answer












            share|cite|improve this answer



            share|cite|improve this answer










            answered yesterday









            Peter ForemanPeter Foreman

            2,9071214




            2,9071214























                2












                $begingroup$

                Hint:



                Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



                $$left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)^x=exp xln left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)$$






                share|cite|improve this answer









                $endgroup$


















                  2












                  $begingroup$

                  Hint:



                  Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



                  $$left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)^x=exp xln left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)$$






                  share|cite|improve this answer









                  $endgroup$
















                    2












                    2








                    2





                    $begingroup$

                    Hint:



                    Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



                    $$left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)^x=exp xln left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)$$






                    share|cite|improve this answer









                    $endgroup$



                    Hint:



                    Take the logarithm on both sides and use the fact that $exp x$ and $ln x$ are inverse functions i.e. $f(x)=exp ln f(x)$.



                    $$left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)^x=exp xln left(dfrac{x+3}{x+8}right)$$







                    share|cite|improve this answer












                    share|cite|improve this answer



                    share|cite|improve this answer










                    answered yesterday









                    Paras KhoslaParas Khosla

                    1,648219




                    1,648219























                        2












                        $begingroup$

                        Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac {u-5}u)^{u-8} = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^{[1]}$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^{-5v}=(( 1+frac 1v)^{v})^{-5}$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^{v}$ goes to $e$.



                        [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u} left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.






                        share|cite|improve this answer











                        $endgroup$













                        • $begingroup$
                          In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x-8}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right)=lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
                          $endgroup$
                          – Pedro
                          yesterday
















                        2












                        $begingroup$

                        Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac {u-5}u)^{u-8} = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^{[1]}$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^{-5v}=(( 1+frac 1v)^{v})^{-5}$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^{v}$ goes to $e$.



                        [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u} left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.






                        share|cite|improve this answer











                        $endgroup$













                        • $begingroup$
                          In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x-8}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right)=lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
                          $endgroup$
                          – Pedro
                          yesterday














                        2












                        2








                        2





                        $begingroup$

                        Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac {u-5}u)^{u-8} = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^{[1]}$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^{-5v}=(( 1+frac 1v)^{v})^{-5}$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^{v}$ goes to $e$.



                        [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u} left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.






                        share|cite|improve this answer











                        $endgroup$



                        Take $u= x+8$. Then it's $(frac {u-5}u)^{u-8} = left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}$. Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$ $^{[1]}$. Then after another substitution $v=-frac u 5$, we have $( 1+frac 1v)^{-5v}=(( 1+frac 1v)^{v})^{-5}$, and $( 1+frac 1v)^{v}$ goes to $e$.



                        [1] Working it out explicitly, we have $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u-8}=left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{u} left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$. $left ( 1-frac 5u right)^{-8}$ goes to zero as $u$ goes to infinity, so we can eliminate that term.







                        share|cite|improve this answer














                        share|cite|improve this answer



                        share|cite|improve this answer








                        edited 14 hours ago

























                        answered yesterday









                        AcccumulationAcccumulation

                        7,0852619




                        7,0852619












                        • $begingroup$
                          In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x-8}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right)=lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
                          $endgroup$
                          – Pedro
                          yesterday


















                        • $begingroup$
                          In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x-8}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right)=lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
                          $endgroup$
                          – Pedro
                          yesterday
















                        $begingroup$
                        In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x-8}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right)=lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
                        $endgroup$
                        – Pedro
                        yesterday




                        $begingroup$
                        In order to avoid mistakes like $$lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x-8}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right)=lim_{xto infty}left ( e^{x}-frac{e^x}{e^8}right),$$ could you explain the precise meaning of "Since we're taking the limit as we go to infinity, we can ignore the $-8$"?
                        $endgroup$
                        – Pedro
                        yesterday











                        1












                        $begingroup$

                        This is an indeterminate form $1^{infty}$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



                        Writing the limit as



                        $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



                        $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x=lim_{xtoinfty}left(left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{x/f(x)}=left(lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}
                        \=e^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}.$$





                        In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$






                        share|cite|improve this answer











                        $endgroup$













                        • $begingroup$
                          What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                          $endgroup$
                          – aschepler
                          yesterday










                        • $begingroup$
                          @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Yves Daoust
                          21 hours ago


















                        1












                        $begingroup$

                        This is an indeterminate form $1^{infty}$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



                        Writing the limit as



                        $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



                        $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x=lim_{xtoinfty}left(left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{x/f(x)}=left(lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}
                        \=e^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}.$$





                        In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$






                        share|cite|improve this answer











                        $endgroup$













                        • $begingroup$
                          What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                          $endgroup$
                          – aschepler
                          yesterday










                        • $begingroup$
                          @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Yves Daoust
                          21 hours ago
















                        1












                        1








                        1





                        $begingroup$

                        This is an indeterminate form $1^{infty}$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



                        Writing the limit as



                        $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



                        $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x=lim_{xtoinfty}left(left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{x/f(x)}=left(lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}
                        \=e^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}.$$





                        In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$






                        share|cite|improve this answer











                        $endgroup$



                        This is an indeterminate form $1^{infty}$ (other infinite powers usually raise no difficulty).



                        Writing the limit as



                        $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x$$ where $f$ tends to $infty$, we have



                        $$lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^x=lim_{xtoinfty}left(left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{x/f(x)}=left(lim_{xtoinfty}left(1+frac1{f(x)}right)^{f(x)}right)^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}
                        \=e^{lim_{xtoinfty}x/f(x)}.$$





                        In the given case, we have $f(x)=-(x+8)/5.$







                        share|cite|improve this answer














                        share|cite|improve this answer



                        share|cite|improve this answer








                        edited 21 hours ago

























                        answered yesterday









                        Yves DaoustYves Daoust

                        129k676227




                        129k676227












                        • $begingroup$
                          What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                          $endgroup$
                          – aschepler
                          yesterday










                        • $begingroup$
                          @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Yves Daoust
                          21 hours ago




















                        • $begingroup$
                          What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                          $endgroup$
                          – aschepler
                          yesterday










                        • $begingroup$
                          @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Yves Daoust
                          21 hours ago


















                        $begingroup$
                        What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                        $endgroup$
                        – aschepler
                        yesterday




                        $begingroup$
                        What about "other powers" with the form "$infty^0$"?
                        $endgroup$
                        – aschepler
                        yesterday












                        $begingroup$
                        @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Yves Daoust
                        21 hours ago






                        $begingroup$
                        @aschepler: I meant $a^infty$. I have rephrased.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Yves Daoust
                        21 hours ago













                        1












                        $begingroup$

                        A common strategy for limits $lim_{xto c}f(x)^{g(x)}$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
                        $$
                        lim_{xto c}log(f(x)^{g(x)})=lim_{xto c}g(x)log f(x)
                        $$

                        If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



                        In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
                        $$
                        lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}
                        $$

                        after noticing that
                        $$
                        frac{frac{1}{t}+3}{frac{1}{t}+8}=frac{1+3t}{1+8t}
                        $$

                        This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
                        $$
                        h'(t)=frac{3}{1+3t}-frac{8}{1+8t}
                        $$

                        the limit is $3-8=-5$.



                        Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
                        $$
                        lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}=
                        lim_{tto0^+}frac{3t-8t+o(t)}{t}=-5
                        $$

                        Thus your limit is $e^{-5}$.






                        share|cite|improve this answer









                        $endgroup$


















                          1












                          $begingroup$

                          A common strategy for limits $lim_{xto c}f(x)^{g(x)}$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
                          $$
                          lim_{xto c}log(f(x)^{g(x)})=lim_{xto c}g(x)log f(x)
                          $$

                          If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



                          In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
                          $$
                          lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}
                          $$

                          after noticing that
                          $$
                          frac{frac{1}{t}+3}{frac{1}{t}+8}=frac{1+3t}{1+8t}
                          $$

                          This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
                          $$
                          h'(t)=frac{3}{1+3t}-frac{8}{1+8t}
                          $$

                          the limit is $3-8=-5$.



                          Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
                          $$
                          lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}=
                          lim_{tto0^+}frac{3t-8t+o(t)}{t}=-5
                          $$

                          Thus your limit is $e^{-5}$.






                          share|cite|improve this answer









                          $endgroup$
















                            1












                            1








                            1





                            $begingroup$

                            A common strategy for limits $lim_{xto c}f(x)^{g(x)}$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
                            $$
                            lim_{xto c}log(f(x)^{g(x)})=lim_{xto c}g(x)log f(x)
                            $$

                            If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



                            In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
                            $$
                            lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}
                            $$

                            after noticing that
                            $$
                            frac{frac{1}{t}+3}{frac{1}{t}+8}=frac{1+3t}{1+8t}
                            $$

                            This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
                            $$
                            h'(t)=frac{3}{1+3t}-frac{8}{1+8t}
                            $$

                            the limit is $3-8=-5$.



                            Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
                            $$
                            lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}=
                            lim_{tto0^+}frac{3t-8t+o(t)}{t}=-5
                            $$

                            Thus your limit is $e^{-5}$.






                            share|cite|improve this answer









                            $endgroup$



                            A common strategy for limits $lim_{xto c}f(x)^{g(x)}$ of the form $1^infty$ or $infty^0$ is to compute first
                            $$
                            lim_{xto c}log(f(x)^{g(x)})=lim_{xto c}g(x)log f(x)
                            $$

                            If this limit is $l$, then the sought limit is $e^l$. In case $l=-infty$, the limit will be $0$; in case $l=infty$, the limit will be $infty$.



                            In the present case, a further step is useful: substitute $x=1/t$, so the limit of the logarithm becomes
                            $$
                            lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}
                            $$

                            after noticing that
                            $$
                            frac{frac{1}{t}+3}{frac{1}{t}+8}=frac{1+3t}{1+8t}
                            $$

                            This limit is easy, because it is the derivative at $0$ of $h(t)=log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)$; since
                            $$
                            h'(t)=frac{3}{1+3t}-frac{8}{1+8t}
                            $$

                            the limit is $3-8=-5$.



                            Alternatively, use that $log(1+u)=u+o(u)$, so you have
                            $$
                            lim_{tto0^+}frac{log(1+3t)-log(1+8t)}{t}=
                            lim_{tto0^+}frac{3t-8t+o(t)}{t}=-5
                            $$

                            Thus your limit is $e^{-5}$.







                            share|cite|improve this answer












                            share|cite|improve this answer



                            share|cite|improve this answer










                            answered 19 hours ago









                            egregegreg

                            183k1486205




                            183k1486205






















                                jfkdasjfk is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










                                draft saved

                                draft discarded


















                                jfkdasjfk is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.













                                jfkdasjfk is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












                                jfkdasjfk is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
















                                Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


                                • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                                But avoid



                                • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                                • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                                Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                                To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                                draft saved


                                draft discarded














                                StackExchange.ready(
                                function () {
                                StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3136503%2fhow-to-evaluate-the-limit-where-something-is-raised-to-a-power-of-x%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                                }
                                );

                                Post as a guest















                                Required, but never shown





















































                                Required, but never shown














                                Required, but never shown












                                Required, but never shown







                                Required, but never shown

































                                Required, but never shown














                                Required, but never shown












                                Required, but never shown







                                Required, but never shown







                                Popular posts from this blog

                                El tren de la libertad Índice Antecedentes "Porque yo decido" Desarrollo de la...

                                Castillo d'Acher Características Menú de navegación

                                Connecting two nodes from the same mother node horizontallyTikZ: What EXACTLY does the the |- notation for...