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Right now I need to know exactly how can I instantly deploy a micro service based backend when needed? I can manage all the integration of technologies by myself but when it comes to hosting on AWS its just impossible for me to get those many instances and it is just impossible to afford right now.
Im contemplating on the idea of starting with a monolithic backend while having the possibility of deploying micro services backend instantly when the business kicks off.
But Im not sure how to achieve this idea if ever it is possible.
Is it possible or am I wrong?
Please help, thanks.
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Right now I need to know exactly how can I instantly deploy a micro service based backend when needed? I can manage all the integration of technologies by myself but when it comes to hosting on AWS its just impossible for me to get those many instances and it is just impossible to afford right now.
Im contemplating on the idea of starting with a monolithic backend while having the possibility of deploying micro services backend instantly when the business kicks off.
But Im not sure how to achieve this idea if ever it is possible.
Is it possible or am I wrong?
Please help, thanks.
microservices backend
New contributor
Do you mean build a monolith and cram it into the cloud as-is without any re-design?
– Nathan Hughes
10 hours ago
No, maybe like 2 separate projects achieving same goal but monolith project will be used first then when there is a good success I can switch to micro services. I dont know whether this is possible or makes any sense.
– Nikola Tordoof
8 hours ago
Microservices are more work and don’t share much if anything in common with monolith design. So you’d be writing the application twice, where the second way was much harder.
– Nathan Hughes
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Right now I need to know exactly how can I instantly deploy a micro service based backend when needed? I can manage all the integration of technologies by myself but when it comes to hosting on AWS its just impossible for me to get those many instances and it is just impossible to afford right now.
Im contemplating on the idea of starting with a monolithic backend while having the possibility of deploying micro services backend instantly when the business kicks off.
But Im not sure how to achieve this idea if ever it is possible.
Is it possible or am I wrong?
Please help, thanks.
microservices backend
New contributor
Right now I need to know exactly how can I instantly deploy a micro service based backend when needed? I can manage all the integration of technologies by myself but when it comes to hosting on AWS its just impossible for me to get those many instances and it is just impossible to afford right now.
Im contemplating on the idea of starting with a monolithic backend while having the possibility of deploying micro services backend instantly when the business kicks off.
But Im not sure how to achieve this idea if ever it is possible.
Is it possible or am I wrong?
Please help, thanks.
microservices backend
microservices backend
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Do you mean build a monolith and cram it into the cloud as-is without any re-design?
– Nathan Hughes
10 hours ago
No, maybe like 2 separate projects achieving same goal but monolith project will be used first then when there is a good success I can switch to micro services. I dont know whether this is possible or makes any sense.
– Nikola Tordoof
8 hours ago
Microservices are more work and don’t share much if anything in common with monolith design. So you’d be writing the application twice, where the second way was much harder.
– Nathan Hughes
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Do you mean build a monolith and cram it into the cloud as-is without any re-design?
– Nathan Hughes
10 hours ago
No, maybe like 2 separate projects achieving same goal but monolith project will be used first then when there is a good success I can switch to micro services. I dont know whether this is possible or makes any sense.
– Nikola Tordoof
8 hours ago
Microservices are more work and don’t share much if anything in common with monolith design. So you’d be writing the application twice, where the second way was much harder.
– Nathan Hughes
7 hours ago
Do you mean build a monolith and cram it into the cloud as-is without any re-design?
– Nathan Hughes
10 hours ago
Do you mean build a monolith and cram it into the cloud as-is without any re-design?
– Nathan Hughes
10 hours ago
No, maybe like 2 separate projects achieving same goal but monolith project will be used first then when there is a good success I can switch to micro services. I dont know whether this is possible or makes any sense.
– Nikola Tordoof
8 hours ago
No, maybe like 2 separate projects achieving same goal but monolith project will be used first then when there is a good success I can switch to micro services. I dont know whether this is possible or makes any sense.
– Nikola Tordoof
8 hours ago
Microservices are more work and don’t share much if anything in common with monolith design. So you’d be writing the application twice, where the second way was much harder.
– Nathan Hughes
7 hours ago
Microservices are more work and don’t share much if anything in common with monolith design. So you’d be writing the application twice, where the second way was much harder.
– Nathan Hughes
7 hours ago
add a comment |
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This is common issue if planing to use Aws EBS, I had same issue and solved using following approch
1) Think design as monolithic and then decide further into bounded context and each bounded context will be a microservicea.
2) Now design your database and try to keep.each microservice db into separate schema.
3) Now in maven module create parent child module .
4) In parents module keep your spring boot main method, swagger,and common module like security etc
5) Disable spring boot nature in child module .
6) Add all child module microservice into parent module and maven build install.
7) Deploy on AWS EBS .
8 ) Expose all microservice using Aws Api getway.
Benefits: in future whenever you will be able to support infrastructure cost just move module and db schema and no other changes required.
Disagreed with correct answer statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/estimating-aws-resource-costs/
https://calculator.aws/#/
3
I dont know anything about "spring boot". Im going to use GoLang, Node.js, Cassandra, Mysql, Redis, HAProxy, NGinX. Can you please elaborate on that?
– Nikola Tordoof
40 mins ago
add a comment |
It is very possible to build multiple micro-services and run on the same server / vps and when your project / service goes viral over-night you can always dedicate a separate instance / server for each service easily.
add a comment |
I feel like building micro services from day 1 is the best approach these days, no one knows which of your services goes viral. You can not afford a blackout when everyone wants to connect to your services.
New contributor
I agree with Ekatarina, its very wise to build micro services from the beginning to avoid rebuilding everything from scratch later.
– Yanaz Hyrovakas
20 mins ago
add a comment |
Firstly, it is a wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services w.r.t. infrastructure..If you are sure you want to go micro-services way; then its better to build it now..
You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine.
Also, these days you have many light weight technologies ( lighter than spring boot ) which has lesser memory footprint, faster start up time like micronaut.
Also, until and unless you are running at scale of Amazon... it is a wrong perception that monolithic cannot scale..Even monolithic can handle quite good number of requests.
2
"You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine." -------- So using this approach I can dedicate a virtual machine for each micro service easily when I get too much traffic later?
– Nikola Tordoof
1 hour ago
1
yes absolutely.. that is 2 minute job
– Deepak
1 hour ago
2
Thanks a lot for helping me clear my confusion and kill my headache which was there from 20+ days. Now I know what to do.
– Nikola Tordoof
57 mins ago
2
Disagreed with statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
– vaquar khan
38 mins ago
1
@vaquarkhan it depends on case to case basis.. if u deploy both micro-service on same VM; then cost is same w.r.t. infrastrature.. why u disagree ?
– Deepak
14 mins ago
|
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This is common issue if planing to use Aws EBS, I had same issue and solved using following approch
1) Think design as monolithic and then decide further into bounded context and each bounded context will be a microservicea.
2) Now design your database and try to keep.each microservice db into separate schema.
3) Now in maven module create parent child module .
4) In parents module keep your spring boot main method, swagger,and common module like security etc
5) Disable spring boot nature in child module .
6) Add all child module microservice into parent module and maven build install.
7) Deploy on AWS EBS .
8 ) Expose all microservice using Aws Api getway.
Benefits: in future whenever you will be able to support infrastructure cost just move module and db schema and no other changes required.
Disagreed with correct answer statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/estimating-aws-resource-costs/
https://calculator.aws/#/
3
I dont know anything about "spring boot". Im going to use GoLang, Node.js, Cassandra, Mysql, Redis, HAProxy, NGinX. Can you please elaborate on that?
– Nikola Tordoof
40 mins ago
add a comment |
This is common issue if planing to use Aws EBS, I had same issue and solved using following approch
1) Think design as monolithic and then decide further into bounded context and each bounded context will be a microservicea.
2) Now design your database and try to keep.each microservice db into separate schema.
3) Now in maven module create parent child module .
4) In parents module keep your spring boot main method, swagger,and common module like security etc
5) Disable spring boot nature in child module .
6) Add all child module microservice into parent module and maven build install.
7) Deploy on AWS EBS .
8 ) Expose all microservice using Aws Api getway.
Benefits: in future whenever you will be able to support infrastructure cost just move module and db schema and no other changes required.
Disagreed with correct answer statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/estimating-aws-resource-costs/
https://calculator.aws/#/
3
I dont know anything about "spring boot". Im going to use GoLang, Node.js, Cassandra, Mysql, Redis, HAProxy, NGinX. Can you please elaborate on that?
– Nikola Tordoof
40 mins ago
add a comment |
This is common issue if planing to use Aws EBS, I had same issue and solved using following approch
1) Think design as monolithic and then decide further into bounded context and each bounded context will be a microservicea.
2) Now design your database and try to keep.each microservice db into separate schema.
3) Now in maven module create parent child module .
4) In parents module keep your spring boot main method, swagger,and common module like security etc
5) Disable spring boot nature in child module .
6) Add all child module microservice into parent module and maven build install.
7) Deploy on AWS EBS .
8 ) Expose all microservice using Aws Api getway.
Benefits: in future whenever you will be able to support infrastructure cost just move module and db schema and no other changes required.
Disagreed with correct answer statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/estimating-aws-resource-costs/
https://calculator.aws/#/
This is common issue if planing to use Aws EBS, I had same issue and solved using following approch
1) Think design as monolithic and then decide further into bounded context and each bounded context will be a microservicea.
2) Now design your database and try to keep.each microservice db into separate schema.
3) Now in maven module create parent child module .
4) In parents module keep your spring boot main method, swagger,and common module like security etc
5) Disable spring boot nature in child module .
6) Add all child module microservice into parent module and maven build install.
7) Deploy on AWS EBS .
8 ) Expose all microservice using Aws Api getway.
Benefits: in future whenever you will be able to support infrastructure cost just move module and db schema and no other changes required.
Disagreed with correct answer statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/estimating-aws-resource-costs/
https://calculator.aws/#/
edited 36 mins ago
answered 43 mins ago
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I dont know anything about "spring boot". Im going to use GoLang, Node.js, Cassandra, Mysql, Redis, HAProxy, NGinX. Can you please elaborate on that?
– Nikola Tordoof
40 mins ago
add a comment |
3
I dont know anything about "spring boot". Im going to use GoLang, Node.js, Cassandra, Mysql, Redis, HAProxy, NGinX. Can you please elaborate on that?
– Nikola Tordoof
40 mins ago
3
3
I dont know anything about "spring boot". Im going to use GoLang, Node.js, Cassandra, Mysql, Redis, HAProxy, NGinX. Can you please elaborate on that?
– Nikola Tordoof
40 mins ago
I dont know anything about "spring boot". Im going to use GoLang, Node.js, Cassandra, Mysql, Redis, HAProxy, NGinX. Can you please elaborate on that?
– Nikola Tordoof
40 mins ago
add a comment |
It is very possible to build multiple micro-services and run on the same server / vps and when your project / service goes viral over-night you can always dedicate a separate instance / server for each service easily.
add a comment |
It is very possible to build multiple micro-services and run on the same server / vps and when your project / service goes viral over-night you can always dedicate a separate instance / server for each service easily.
add a comment |
It is very possible to build multiple micro-services and run on the same server / vps and when your project / service goes viral over-night you can always dedicate a separate instance / server for each service easily.
It is very possible to build multiple micro-services and run on the same server / vps and when your project / service goes viral over-night you can always dedicate a separate instance / server for each service easily.
answered 44 mins ago
Hank MoodyHank Moody
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add a comment |
I feel like building micro services from day 1 is the best approach these days, no one knows which of your services goes viral. You can not afford a blackout when everyone wants to connect to your services.
New contributor
I agree with Ekatarina, its very wise to build micro services from the beginning to avoid rebuilding everything from scratch later.
– Yanaz Hyrovakas
20 mins ago
add a comment |
I feel like building micro services from day 1 is the best approach these days, no one knows which of your services goes viral. You can not afford a blackout when everyone wants to connect to your services.
New contributor
I agree with Ekatarina, its very wise to build micro services from the beginning to avoid rebuilding everything from scratch later.
– Yanaz Hyrovakas
20 mins ago
add a comment |
I feel like building micro services from day 1 is the best approach these days, no one knows which of your services goes viral. You can not afford a blackout when everyone wants to connect to your services.
New contributor
I feel like building micro services from day 1 is the best approach these days, no one knows which of your services goes viral. You can not afford a blackout when everyone wants to connect to your services.
New contributor
New contributor
answered 37 mins ago
Ekaterina MakesimovaEkaterina Makesimova
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New contributor
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I agree with Ekatarina, its very wise to build micro services from the beginning to avoid rebuilding everything from scratch later.
– Yanaz Hyrovakas
20 mins ago
add a comment |
I agree with Ekatarina, its very wise to build micro services from the beginning to avoid rebuilding everything from scratch later.
– Yanaz Hyrovakas
20 mins ago
I agree with Ekatarina, its very wise to build micro services from the beginning to avoid rebuilding everything from scratch later.
– Yanaz Hyrovakas
20 mins ago
I agree with Ekatarina, its very wise to build micro services from the beginning to avoid rebuilding everything from scratch later.
– Yanaz Hyrovakas
20 mins ago
add a comment |
Firstly, it is a wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services w.r.t. infrastructure..If you are sure you want to go micro-services way; then its better to build it now..
You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine.
Also, these days you have many light weight technologies ( lighter than spring boot ) which has lesser memory footprint, faster start up time like micronaut.
Also, until and unless you are running at scale of Amazon... it is a wrong perception that monolithic cannot scale..Even monolithic can handle quite good number of requests.
2
"You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine." -------- So using this approach I can dedicate a virtual machine for each micro service easily when I get too much traffic later?
– Nikola Tordoof
1 hour ago
1
yes absolutely.. that is 2 minute job
– Deepak
1 hour ago
2
Thanks a lot for helping me clear my confusion and kill my headache which was there from 20+ days. Now I know what to do.
– Nikola Tordoof
57 mins ago
2
Disagreed with statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
– vaquar khan
38 mins ago
1
@vaquarkhan it depends on case to case basis.. if u deploy both micro-service on same VM; then cost is same w.r.t. infrastrature.. why u disagree ?
– Deepak
14 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
Firstly, it is a wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services w.r.t. infrastructure..If you are sure you want to go micro-services way; then its better to build it now..
You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine.
Also, these days you have many light weight technologies ( lighter than spring boot ) which has lesser memory footprint, faster start up time like micronaut.
Also, until and unless you are running at scale of Amazon... it is a wrong perception that monolithic cannot scale..Even monolithic can handle quite good number of requests.
2
"You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine." -------- So using this approach I can dedicate a virtual machine for each micro service easily when I get too much traffic later?
– Nikola Tordoof
1 hour ago
1
yes absolutely.. that is 2 minute job
– Deepak
1 hour ago
2
Thanks a lot for helping me clear my confusion and kill my headache which was there from 20+ days. Now I know what to do.
– Nikola Tordoof
57 mins ago
2
Disagreed with statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
– vaquar khan
38 mins ago
1
@vaquarkhan it depends on case to case basis.. if u deploy both micro-service on same VM; then cost is same w.r.t. infrastrature.. why u disagree ?
– Deepak
14 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
Firstly, it is a wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services w.r.t. infrastructure..If you are sure you want to go micro-services way; then its better to build it now..
You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine.
Also, these days you have many light weight technologies ( lighter than spring boot ) which has lesser memory footprint, faster start up time like micronaut.
Also, until and unless you are running at scale of Amazon... it is a wrong perception that monolithic cannot scale..Even monolithic can handle quite good number of requests.
Firstly, it is a wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services w.r.t. infrastructure..If you are sure you want to go micro-services way; then its better to build it now..
You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine.
Also, these days you have many light weight technologies ( lighter than spring boot ) which has lesser memory footprint, faster start up time like micronaut.
Also, until and unless you are running at scale of Amazon... it is a wrong perception that monolithic cannot scale..Even monolithic can handle quite good number of requests.
answered 1 hour ago
DeepakDeepak
5,53383574
5,53383574
2
"You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine." -------- So using this approach I can dedicate a virtual machine for each micro service easily when I get too much traffic later?
– Nikola Tordoof
1 hour ago
1
yes absolutely.. that is 2 minute job
– Deepak
1 hour ago
2
Thanks a lot for helping me clear my confusion and kill my headache which was there from 20+ days. Now I know what to do.
– Nikola Tordoof
57 mins ago
2
Disagreed with statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
– vaquar khan
38 mins ago
1
@vaquarkhan it depends on case to case basis.. if u deploy both micro-service on same VM; then cost is same w.r.t. infrastrature.. why u disagree ?
– Deepak
14 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
2
"You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine." -------- So using this approach I can dedicate a virtual machine for each micro service easily when I get too much traffic later?
– Nikola Tordoof
1 hour ago
1
yes absolutely.. that is 2 minute job
– Deepak
1 hour ago
2
Thanks a lot for helping me clear my confusion and kill my headache which was there from 20+ days. Now I know what to do.
– Nikola Tordoof
57 mins ago
2
Disagreed with statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
– vaquar khan
38 mins ago
1
@vaquarkhan it depends on case to case basis.. if u deploy both micro-service on same VM; then cost is same w.r.t. infrastrature.. why u disagree ?
– Deepak
14 mins ago
2
2
"You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine." -------- So using this approach I can dedicate a virtual machine for each micro service easily when I get too much traffic later?
– Nikola Tordoof
1 hour ago
"You can build multiple micro-services and deploy on same virtual machine." -------- So using this approach I can dedicate a virtual machine for each micro service easily when I get too much traffic later?
– Nikola Tordoof
1 hour ago
1
1
yes absolutely.. that is 2 minute job
– Deepak
1 hour ago
yes absolutely.. that is 2 minute job
– Deepak
1 hour ago
2
2
Thanks a lot for helping me clear my confusion and kill my headache which was there from 20+ days. Now I know what to do.
– Nikola Tordoof
57 mins ago
Thanks a lot for helping me clear my confusion and kill my headache which was there from 20+ days. Now I know what to do.
– Nikola Tordoof
57 mins ago
2
2
Disagreed with statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
– vaquar khan
38 mins ago
Disagreed with statement that "wrong perception that deploying monolithic is cheaper than micro-services" plz check Aws cost estimations monolythic is cheaper then microservice ,microservice need polygot persistence and independent hosting.
– vaquar khan
38 mins ago
1
1
@vaquarkhan it depends on case to case basis.. if u deploy both micro-service on same VM; then cost is same w.r.t. infrastrature.. why u disagree ?
– Deepak
14 mins ago
@vaquarkhan it depends on case to case basis.. if u deploy both micro-service on same VM; then cost is same w.r.t. infrastrature.. why u disagree ?
– Deepak
14 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
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Do you mean build a monolith and cram it into the cloud as-is without any re-design?
– Nathan Hughes
10 hours ago
No, maybe like 2 separate projects achieving same goal but monolith project will be used first then when there is a good success I can switch to micro services. I dont know whether this is possible or makes any sense.
– Nikola Tordoof
8 hours ago
Microservices are more work and don’t share much if anything in common with monolith design. So you’d be writing the application twice, where the second way was much harder.
– Nathan Hughes
7 hours ago