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My 5-year old son loves sending out an SOS signal using a toy Morse code generator (wired, don't worry about false alarms for real authorities).

He has learned to send the SOS signal and was asking me to send a response to him to let him know that help is on the way.

What Morse code should I respond with in a real life situation when I hear a distress call on radio?

cw procedure emergency

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  How about a real life story? Here is one where the proper response was merely to call 911. heraldnet.com/news/hiker-safe-with-help-of-ham-radio
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  I know he's only 5, but it would still be a good idea to tell him that either SOS or Mayday radio transmissions must only be sent during a genuine emergency involving aircraft or ships at sea. From Wikipedia: "[distress signals] must only be used where there is grave and imminent danger to life. Otherwise, urgent signals such as pan-pan can be sent. Most jurisdictions have large penalties for false, unwarranted or prank distress signals". Those penalties are jail time and very large fines.
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  @MikeWaters Only those involving airplanes or ships at sea? I thought it was any situation where your life or others lives were in danger (where it could help at least). For example, if you're lost in the desert with limited supplies and you have a portable rig on you, would it not be appropriate to send SOS?
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  @DuncanXSimpson One might think so, but that is definitely not the case. The key here is grave and imminent danger to life. Governments take that as (for example) "Our ship is sinking fast!". Check out SOS and Mayday Wikipedia articles. See Pan-Pan.
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My 5-year old son loves sending out an SOS signal using a toy Morse code generator (wired, don't worry about false alarms for real authorities).

He has learned to send the SOS signal and was asking me to send a response to him to let him know that help is on the way.

What Morse code should I respond with in a real life situation when I hear a distress call on radio?

cw procedure emergency

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  How about a real life story? Here is one where the proper response was merely to call 911. heraldnet.com/news/hiker-safe-with-help-of-ham-radio
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  @MikeWaters Only those involving airplanes or ships at sea? I thought it was any situation where your life or others lives were in danger (where it could help at least). For example, if you're lost in the desert with limited supplies and you have a portable rig on you, would it not be appropriate to send SOS?
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  @DuncanXSimpson One might think so, but that is definitely not the case. The key here is grave and imminent danger to life. Governments take that as (for example) "Our ship is sinking fast!". Check out SOS and Mayday Wikipedia articles. See Pan-Pan.
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My 5-year old son loves sending out an SOS signal using a toy Morse code generator (wired, don't worry about false alarms for real authorities).

He has learned to send the SOS signal and was asking me to send a response to him to let him know that help is on the way.

What Morse code should I respond with in a real life situation when I hear a distress call on radio?

cw procedure emergency

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Since you're simulating the situation with non-transmitting equipment, you get the play the part of actual emergency agencies. You'd start by asking the SOS caller to identify themselves (call sign, ship name, etc.) and give their location and the nature of the emergency.

Of course, unless your 5 year old knows a lot more Morse than just SOS, that's where the exchange will end -- but this is a good way to get him interested in learning the whole alphabet (if he hasn't), getting his speed up, learning prosigns, and so forth.

In a real life situation, the FCC says you should respond to the caller and ask what assistance is needed -- pretty much what you'll do in simulation with your son. Find out what's the emergency, where the caller is located (latitude and longitude, map grid, or town and address), etc.

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Since this is all for a bit of fun, you could respond with the typical Morse Code response to indicate that the last transmission was successfully received: R:

•-•

Some operators stylize this as two R's sent consecutively. You could also use your "Dad" call sign by appending "de DAD":

-••  •    -••  •-  -••

which means this transmission is "from Dad".

As others have pointed out, in a real situation the response would either asking for clarifying information (e.g. a location or nature of emergency) or it would be a confirmation that help is on the way. If I were responding, I would end my transmission with "de W9IQ" to indicate my FCC assigned call.

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  @HankyPanky "ACK" isn't typically used with Morse Code but it is only for fun so feel free. A more likely response for an amateur radio operator with either be the indicated "R" or "QSL" meaning message received.
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  Perfect. I will discuss R and QSL both with him. Its good to use those because they can someday be real useful for him in real life, as opposed to non standard phrases.
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To respond to a received Morse SOS by radio requires a transmit system and operator able to do that.

Normally a transmit station license issued by the appropriate regulating agency having jurisdiction for that receive location is required to operate such a transmitter.

If no such transmit capabilities are available, then relaying the details of the SOS message to an appropriate, emergency response organization is about the best recourse available.

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Since you're simulating the situation with non-transmitting equipment, you get the play the part of actual emergency agencies. You'd start by asking the SOS caller to identify themselves (call sign, ship name, etc.) and give their location and the nature of the emergency.

Of course, unless your 5 year old knows a lot more Morse than just SOS, that's where the exchange will end -- but this is a good way to get him interested in learning the whole alphabet (if he hasn't), getting his speed up, learning prosigns, and so forth.

In a real life situation, the FCC says you should respond to the caller and ask what assistance is needed -- pretty much what you'll do in simulation with your son. Find out what's the emergency, where the caller is located (latitude and longitude, map grid, or town and address), etc.

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answered 12 hours ago

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  Thanks. Guy knows ICAO phonetics and can easily identify himself as Mike Sierra Delta with Mayday Mayday Mayday.
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Since you're simulating the situation with non-transmitting equipment, you get the play the part of actual emergency agencies. You'd start by asking the SOS caller to identify themselves (call sign, ship name, etc.) and give their location and the nature of the emergency.

Of course, unless your 5 year old knows a lot more Morse than just SOS, that's where the exchange will end -- but this is a good way to get him interested in learning the whole alphabet (if he hasn't), getting his speed up, learning prosigns, and so forth.

In a real life situation, the FCC says you should respond to the caller and ask what assistance is needed -- pretty much what you'll do in simulation with your son. Find out what's the emergency, where the caller is located (latitude and longitude, map grid, or town and address), etc.

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answered 12 hours ago

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  Thanks. Guy knows ICAO phonetics and can easily identify himself as Mike Sierra Delta with Mayday Mayday Mayday.
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Since you're simulating the situation with non-transmitting equipment, you get the play the part of actual emergency agencies. You'd start by asking the SOS caller to identify themselves (call sign, ship name, etc.) and give their location and the nature of the emergency.

Of course, unless your 5 year old knows a lot more Morse than just SOS, that's where the exchange will end -- but this is a good way to get him interested in learning the whole alphabet (if he hasn't), getting his speed up, learning prosigns, and so forth.

In a real life situation, the FCC says you should respond to the caller and ask what assistance is needed -- pretty much what you'll do in simulation with your son. Find out what's the emergency, where the caller is located (latitude and longitude, map grid, or town and address), etc.

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Since this is all for a bit of fun, you could respond with the typical Morse Code response to indicate that the last transmission was successfully received: R:

•-•

Some operators stylize this as two R's sent consecutively. You could also use your "Dad" call sign by appending "de DAD":

-••  •    -••  •-  -••

which means this transmission is "from Dad".

As others have pointed out, in a real situation the response would either asking for clarifying information (e.g. a location or nature of emergency) or it would be a confirmation that help is on the way. If I were responding, I would end my transmission with "de W9IQ" to indicate my FCC assigned call.

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  @HankyPanky "ACK" isn't typically used with Morse Code but it is only for fun so feel free. A more likely response for an amateur radio operator with either be the indicated "R" or "QSL" meaning message received.
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  Perfect. I will discuss R and QSL both with him. Its good to use those because they can someday be real useful for him in real life, as opposed to non standard phrases.
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Since this is all for a bit of fun, you could respond with the typical Morse Code response to indicate that the last transmission was successfully received: R:

•-•

Some operators stylize this as two R's sent consecutively. You could also use your "Dad" call sign by appending "de DAD":

-••  •    -••  •-  -••

which means this transmission is "from Dad".

As others have pointed out, in a real situation the response would either asking for clarifying information (e.g. a location or nature of emergency) or it would be a confirmation that help is on the way. If I were responding, I would end my transmission with "de W9IQ" to indicate my FCC assigned call.

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answered 11 hours ago

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  How about ACK?
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  @HankyPanky "ACK" isn't typically used with Morse Code but it is only for fun so feel free. A more likely response for an amateur radio operator with either be the indicated "R" or "QSL" meaning message received.
  $endgroup$
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  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  Perfect. I will discuss R and QSL both with him. Its good to use those because they can someday be real useful for him in real life, as opposed to non standard phrases.
  $endgroup$
  – Hanky Panky
  9 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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Since this is all for a bit of fun, you could respond with the typical Morse Code response to indicate that the last transmission was successfully received: R:

•-•

Some operators stylize this as two R's sent consecutively. You could also use your "Dad" call sign by appending "de DAD":

-••  •    -••  •-  -••

which means this transmission is "from Dad".

As others have pointed out, in a real situation the response would either asking for clarifying information (e.g. a location or nature of emergency) or it would be a confirmation that help is on the way. If I were responding, I would end my transmission with "de W9IQ" to indicate my FCC assigned call.

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To respond to a received Morse SOS by radio requires a transmit system and operator able to do that.

Normally a transmit station license issued by the appropriate regulating agency having jurisdiction for that receive location is required to operate such a transmitter.

If no such transmit capabilities are available, then relaying the details of the SOS message to an appropriate, emergency response organization is about the best recourse available.

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To respond to a received Morse SOS by radio requires a transmit system and operator able to do that.

Normally a transmit station license issued by the appropriate regulating agency having jurisdiction for that receive location is required to operate such a transmitter.

If no such transmit capabilities are available, then relaying the details of the SOS message to an appropriate, emergency response organization is about the best recourse available.

share|improve this answer

answered 13 hours ago

Richard FryRichard Fry

1,004212

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$begingroup$

To respond to a received Morse SOS by radio requires a transmit system and operator able to do that.

Normally a transmit station license issued by the appropriate regulating agency having jurisdiction for that receive location is required to operate such a transmitter.

If no such transmit capabilities are available, then relaying the details of the SOS message to an appropriate, emergency response organization is about the best recourse available.

share|improve this answer

answered 13 hours ago

Richard FryRichard Fry

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answered 13 hours ago

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