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How bulky would the original autograph of the Torah been?



Parashat Tazria+Hachodesh
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Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?










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  • By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?

    – Josh K
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  • I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.

    – Ruminator
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  • @JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”

    – DonielF
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Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?










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  • By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?

    – Josh K
    5 hours ago











  • I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.

    – Ruminator
    5 hours ago











  • @JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”

    – DonielF
    53 mins ago














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Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?










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  • By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?

    – Josh K
    5 hours ago











  • I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.

    – Ruminator
    5 hours ago











  • @JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”

    – DonielF
    53 mins ago



















  • By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?

    – Josh K
    5 hours ago











  • I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.

    – Ruminator
    5 hours ago











  • @JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”

    – DonielF
    53 mins ago

















By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?

– Josh K
5 hours ago





By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?

– Josh K
5 hours ago













I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.

– Ruminator
5 hours ago





I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.

– Ruminator
5 hours ago













@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”

– DonielF
53 mins ago





@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”

– DonielF
53 mins ago










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According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).






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    To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3

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  • @DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.

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According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).






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    To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3

    – Double AA
    7 hours ago













  • @DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.

    – DonielF
    54 mins ago
















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According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).






share|improve this answer



















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    To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3

    – Double AA
    7 hours ago













  • @DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.

    – DonielF
    54 mins ago














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According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).






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According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).







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    To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3

    – Double AA
    7 hours ago













  • @DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.

    – DonielF
    54 mins ago














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    To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3

    – Double AA
    7 hours ago













  • @DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.

    – DonielF
    54 mins ago








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To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3

– Double AA
7 hours ago







To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3

– Double AA
7 hours ago















@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.

– DonielF
54 mins ago





@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.

– DonielF
54 mins ago