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Noun clause (singular all the time?)


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I have asked one grammarian about this and she ended up being unsure of her answer.
Question: is there a possibility that a noun clause is used in a plural manner? For instance:
- Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME.
- WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose.



Should the word "scare" be "scares" in the examples?
Should "are" be "is" then?










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    I have asked one grammarian about this and she ended up being unsure of her answer.
    Question: is there a possibility that a noun clause is used in a plural manner? For instance:
    - Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME.
    - WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose.



    Should the word "scare" be "scares" in the examples?
    Should "are" be "is" then?










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      I have asked one grammarian about this and she ended up being unsure of her answer.
      Question: is there a possibility that a noun clause is used in a plural manner? For instance:
      - Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME.
      - WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose.



      Should the word "scare" be "scares" in the examples?
      Should "are" be "is" then?










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      I have asked one grammarian about this and she ended up being unsure of her answer.
      Question: is there a possibility that a noun clause is used in a plural manner? For instance:
      - Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME.
      - WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose.



      Should the word "scare" be "scares" in the examples?
      Should "are" be "is" then?







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          Interesting question :)



          I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me or the things which scare me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me.



          In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.






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          • Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.

            – John Lawler
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            @JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)

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          It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.






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          • The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?

            – Hannah
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          • (a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.

            – Philip Wood
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          • Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?

            – Hannah
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          • "surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?" Verbs change their form according to whether the subject of the sentence or clause is singular or plural. "scares' and "is" are third person SINGULAR forms, but the subject is plural (two eyes plus one nose!).

            – Philip Wood
            21 mins ago













          • Yes, of course, but in the cases I'm marking her eyes and nose is not the subject – what is, and since what is singular, so should the verb be. See what I mean?

            – Hannah
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          Interesting question :)



          I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me or the things which scare me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me.



          In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.






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          • Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.

            – John Lawler
            15 mins ago






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            @JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)

            – Hannah
            4 mins ago
















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          Interesting question :)



          I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me or the things which scare me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me.



          In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.






          share|improve this answer


























          • Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.

            – John Lawler
            15 mins ago






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            @JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)

            – Hannah
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          Interesting question :)



          I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me or the things which scare me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me.



          In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.






          share|improve this answer















          Interesting question :)



          I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me or the things which scare me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me.



          In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.







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          • Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.

            – John Lawler
            15 mins ago






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            @JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)

            – Hannah
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          • Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.

            – John Lawler
            15 mins ago






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            @JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)

            – Hannah
            4 mins ago

















          Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.

          – John Lawler
          15 mins ago





          Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.

          – John Lawler
          15 mins ago




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          @JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)

          – Hannah
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          @JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)

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          It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.






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          • The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?

            – Hannah
            40 mins ago













          • (a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.

            – Philip Wood
            32 mins ago











          • Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?

            – Hannah
            26 mins ago













          • "surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?" Verbs change their form according to whether the subject of the sentence or clause is singular or plural. "scares' and "is" are third person SINGULAR forms, but the subject is plural (two eyes plus one nose!).

            – Philip Wood
            21 mins ago













          • Yes, of course, but in the cases I'm marking her eyes and nose is not the subject – what is, and since what is singular, so should the verb be. See what I mean?

            – Hannah
            18 mins ago
















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          It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.






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          • The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?

            – Hannah
            40 mins ago













          • (a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.

            – Philip Wood
            32 mins ago











          • Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?

            – Hannah
            26 mins ago













          • "surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?" Verbs change their form according to whether the subject of the sentence or clause is singular or plural. "scares' and "is" are third person SINGULAR forms, but the subject is plural (two eyes plus one nose!).

            – Philip Wood
            21 mins ago













          • Yes, of course, but in the cases I'm marking her eyes and nose is not the subject – what is, and since what is singular, so should the verb be. See what I mean?

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            18 mins ago














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          It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.






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          It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.







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          • The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?

            – Hannah
            40 mins ago













          • (a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.

            – Philip Wood
            32 mins ago











          • Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?

            – Hannah
            26 mins ago













          • "surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?" Verbs change their form according to whether the subject of the sentence or clause is singular or plural. "scares' and "is" are third person SINGULAR forms, but the subject is plural (two eyes plus one nose!).

            – Philip Wood
            21 mins ago













          • Yes, of course, but in the cases I'm marking her eyes and nose is not the subject – what is, and since what is singular, so should the verb be. See what I mean?

            – Hannah
            18 mins ago



















          • The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?

            – Hannah
            40 mins ago













          • (a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.

            – Philip Wood
            32 mins ago











          • Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?

            – Hannah
            26 mins ago













          • "surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?" Verbs change their form according to whether the subject of the sentence or clause is singular or plural. "scares' and "is" are third person SINGULAR forms, but the subject is plural (two eyes plus one nose!).

            – Philip Wood
            21 mins ago













          • Yes, of course, but in the cases I'm marking her eyes and nose is not the subject – what is, and since what is singular, so should the verb be. See what I mean?

            – Hannah
            18 mins ago

















          The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?

          – Hannah
          40 mins ago







          The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?

          – Hannah
          40 mins ago















          (a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.

          – Philip Wood
          32 mins ago





          (a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.

          – Philip Wood
          32 mins ago













          Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?

          – Hannah
          26 mins ago







          Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?

          – Hannah
          26 mins ago















          "surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?" Verbs change their form according to whether the subject of the sentence or clause is singular or plural. "scares' and "is" are third person SINGULAR forms, but the subject is plural (two eyes plus one nose!).

          – Philip Wood
          21 mins ago







          "surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?" Verbs change their form according to whether the subject of the sentence or clause is singular or plural. "scares' and "is" are third person SINGULAR forms, but the subject is plural (two eyes plus one nose!).

          – Philip Wood
          21 mins ago















          Yes, of course, but in the cases I'm marking her eyes and nose is not the subject – what is, and since what is singular, so should the verb be. See what I mean?

          – Hannah
          18 mins ago





          Yes, of course, but in the cases I'm marking her eyes and nose is not the subject – what is, and since what is singular, so should the verb be. See what I mean?

          – Hannah
          18 mins ago


















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