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Is it possible to make sharp wind that can cut stuff from afar?
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You know the typical wind slash in anime or games where the swordsman slashes from afar either vertically or horizontally and the wind pressure or projectile cut the opponent, like in this image for example.
Now I wonder if this is scientifically possible, or is there a solution for it? and What mechanism for the sword or the weapon shape to achieve such a state? How much strength or speed would the person need to swing his arm to manage so(I know a normal human won't reach it or his hand or body will rip apart just by common sense alone)
, what are the side effects, and what would the wind cut/slash look like?
I know there are some recent similar questions like Fencing style for blades that can attack from a distance but he/she mostly asking for the martial art, not how to achieve such projections.
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You know the typical wind slash in anime or games where the swordsman slashes from afar either vertically or horizontally and the wind pressure or projectile cut the opponent, like in this image for example.
Now I wonder if this is scientifically possible, or is there a solution for it? and What mechanism for the sword or the weapon shape to achieve such a state? How much strength or speed would the person need to swing his arm to manage so(I know a normal human won't reach it or his hand or body will rip apart just by common sense alone)
, what are the side effects, and what would the wind cut/slash look like?
I know there are some recent similar questions like Fencing style for blades that can attack from a distance but he/she mostly asking for the martial art, not how to achieve such projections.
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I don't know about slashing, but a burst of air that causes impact damage seems possible if you could make a more powerful version of the air bazooka toy. It seems all you need is a tube and a plunger. Even the toy version that just uses a little band can deliver quite a bit of force from a few 10s of feet. If the plunger was powerful enough you could probably get a lot of force.
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I'm going to have to think about this one. Offhand, an "air blade" wont be able to cut anything. However, I am going to have to think about whether an air vortex can drill into something. Vortexes have the advantage of keeping power localized. I'm just not sure what happens when a vortex tries to go supersonic.
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– Cort Ammon
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You really need something moving at supersonic speeds, really close. E.g. Thrust SSC or jet fighter making low pass.
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– jamesqf
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Probably the closest real thing but still not really close: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech
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– Ville Niemi
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As in the above is what would happen if you attached your katana to a gas turbine so that it rotates at supersonic speed. Note the reported side effects.
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You know the typical wind slash in anime or games where the swordsman slashes from afar either vertically or horizontally and the wind pressure or projectile cut the opponent, like in this image for example.
Now I wonder if this is scientifically possible, or is there a solution for it? and What mechanism for the sword or the weapon shape to achieve such a state? How much strength or speed would the person need to swing his arm to manage so(I know a normal human won't reach it or his hand or body will rip apart just by common sense alone)
, what are the side effects, and what would the wind cut/slash look like?
I know there are some recent similar questions like Fencing style for blades that can attack from a distance but he/she mostly asking for the martial art, not how to achieve such projections.
physics weapons science
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You know the typical wind slash in anime or games where the swordsman slashes from afar either vertically or horizontally and the wind pressure or projectile cut the opponent, like in this image for example.
Now I wonder if this is scientifically possible, or is there a solution for it? and What mechanism for the sword or the weapon shape to achieve such a state? How much strength or speed would the person need to swing his arm to manage so(I know a normal human won't reach it or his hand or body will rip apart just by common sense alone)
, what are the side effects, and what would the wind cut/slash look like?
I know there are some recent similar questions like Fencing style for blades that can attack from a distance but he/she mostly asking for the martial art, not how to achieve such projections.
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I don't know about slashing, but a burst of air that causes impact damage seems possible if you could make a more powerful version of the air bazooka toy. It seems all you need is a tube and a plunger. Even the toy version that just uses a little band can deliver quite a bit of force from a few 10s of feet. If the plunger was powerful enough you could probably get a lot of force.
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– user4574
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I'm going to have to think about this one. Offhand, an "air blade" wont be able to cut anything. However, I am going to have to think about whether an air vortex can drill into something. Vortexes have the advantage of keeping power localized. I'm just not sure what happens when a vortex tries to go supersonic.
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– Cort Ammon
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You really need something moving at supersonic speeds, really close. E.g. Thrust SSC or jet fighter making low pass.
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– jamesqf
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Probably the closest real thing but still not really close: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech
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– Ville Niemi
8 hours ago
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As in the above is what would happen if you attached your katana to a gas turbine so that it rotates at supersonic speed. Note the reported side effects.
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– Ville Niemi
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I don't know about slashing, but a burst of air that causes impact damage seems possible if you could make a more powerful version of the air bazooka toy. It seems all you need is a tube and a plunger. Even the toy version that just uses a little band can deliver quite a bit of force from a few 10s of feet. If the plunger was powerful enough you could probably get a lot of force.
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– user4574
13 hours ago
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I'm going to have to think about this one. Offhand, an "air blade" wont be able to cut anything. However, I am going to have to think about whether an air vortex can drill into something. Vortexes have the advantage of keeping power localized. I'm just not sure what happens when a vortex tries to go supersonic.
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– Cort Ammon
12 hours ago
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You really need something moving at supersonic speeds, really close. E.g. Thrust SSC or jet fighter making low pass.
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– jamesqf
9 hours ago
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Probably the closest real thing but still not really close: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech
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– Ville Niemi
8 hours ago
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As in the above is what would happen if you attached your katana to a gas turbine so that it rotates at supersonic speed. Note the reported side effects.
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– Ville Niemi
8 hours ago
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I don't know about slashing, but a burst of air that causes impact damage seems possible if you could make a more powerful version of the air bazooka toy. It seems all you need is a tube and a plunger. Even the toy version that just uses a little band can deliver quite a bit of force from a few 10s of feet. If the plunger was powerful enough you could probably get a lot of force.
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– user4574
13 hours ago
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I don't know about slashing, but a burst of air that causes impact damage seems possible if you could make a more powerful version of the air bazooka toy. It seems all you need is a tube and a plunger. Even the toy version that just uses a little band can deliver quite a bit of force from a few 10s of feet. If the plunger was powerful enough you could probably get a lot of force.
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– user4574
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I'm going to have to think about this one. Offhand, an "air blade" wont be able to cut anything. However, I am going to have to think about whether an air vortex can drill into something. Vortexes have the advantage of keeping power localized. I'm just not sure what happens when a vortex tries to go supersonic.
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– Cort Ammon
12 hours ago
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I'm going to have to think about this one. Offhand, an "air blade" wont be able to cut anything. However, I am going to have to think about whether an air vortex can drill into something. Vortexes have the advantage of keeping power localized. I'm just not sure what happens when a vortex tries to go supersonic.
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– Cort Ammon
12 hours ago
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You really need something moving at supersonic speeds, really close. E.g. Thrust SSC or jet fighter making low pass.
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– jamesqf
9 hours ago
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You really need something moving at supersonic speeds, really close. E.g. Thrust SSC or jet fighter making low pass.
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– jamesqf
9 hours ago
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Probably the closest real thing but still not really close: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech
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– Ville Niemi
8 hours ago
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Probably the closest real thing but still not really close: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech
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– Ville Niemi
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As in the above is what would happen if you attached your katana to a gas turbine so that it rotates at supersonic speed. Note the reported side effects.
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– Ville Niemi
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As in the above is what would happen if you attached your katana to a gas turbine so that it rotates at supersonic speed. Note the reported side effects.
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Not possible without also ejecting particulate matter. If it could be done then people would be cut into pieces by standing near a helicopter or aircraft propeller.
The only solution would be to use sand or shot blasting. Even then, if your opponent was wearing armour, the worst you are likely to do is clean it for them.
You would also require quite a lot of equipment.
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Just to add to your answer, a sand blaster type weapon could easily harm someone in armour if pointed at their helmet. It would go in between the gaps in the eye slits if they were wearing a closed face helmet. I know that i, for one, would not want highly pressurised sand fired into my eyes. If they were in an open face helmet... yeah, i dont think they are going to have a good time at all. If you used metal fillings instead, it might cause lacerations or if you used a powder it could cause someone to choke as they inhaled it.
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@LiamMorris heck, with enough pressure, you can use water and the guy won't see again.
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– John Dvorak
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@JohnDvorak You could yes, you could even put gravel or sand in with it and then you’ve got yourself a water cutter, at close range they can cut through steel.
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A metal cutting water jet shoots at 760 m/s you could attach one to your sword.
Speed of sound 343 m/s if your character arm
can move that fast? Then there is compressed air in a air gun. (why not just use throwing weapon or a gun)
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well this is just quriousity how to make wind cut/slash posible not the practicality or alternative although the wind contain sand or other substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base except maybe if the water vapour or the subtance can do such reaction, and at least i think for melee weapon it can be a surprise attack against opponent that stay out of range of the melee weapon. besides i can just make the world dont have gun or long range weapon because of tradition.
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since i cant edit it anymore just to be more clear: i mean the wind contain small sand or dust or other small particle substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base to me except maybe if the water vapour or the small subtance can still do such reaction.
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Waterjust are dangerous at point-blank range, but I think their effectiveness drops off very quickly so they're not much good as ranged weapons. Waterjets were at one time considered for antitank "melee" weapons varried by infantry, but were (and I think still are) too big and heavy for practical use. Might not always be that way, of course...
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I don't see how a water jet qualifies as wind.
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As pointed out in the adjoining replies, a blast/slash of air cannot occur on its own, from a physical viewpoint. You can either compress that air and direct it at the target and this would require insanely high precision to focus it and cause significant damage. Also, as the other reply states, "air slashes" are basically shock waves travelling in air. Now, from my knowledge of undergraduate fluid mechanics, a shock wave occurs when a fluid is made to undergo a careful transition from subsonic state to supersonic state by making it flow through a convergent-divergent nozzle. In order to create the shock wave at the exit plane of the nozzle (which literally is your weapon), you need to operate it very precisely under the "third design pressure ratio point" which, in practice, is too difficult to achieve. Also, once the shock wave exits the nozzle, it can no longer be treated as a one-dimensional wavefront, rather it becomes three-dimensional, expanding and dissipating exponentially. So, that would require your opponent to be present within a few meters of your reach.
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It is possible to kill with air pressure, you just have to be REALLY CLOSE to do it
The only documented death I found from "air pressure" is Jon-Erik Hexum, who was bored on the set of his tv series. He had a gun loaded with blanks, and decided to play a fake game of Russian Roulette with his gun and the blank cartridges (i.e. put the gun on your temple and pull the trigger).
This is still not safe because of both the explosion created by the blank and the bits of paper and plastic moving at high speeds out of the muzzle. He died from a fractured skull and pieces of paper and plastic that were embedded in his brain.
Blanks cause injuries if put next to the skin.
Of course, millions of actors have been "shot" by blanks with no ill effects. Most on-set fatalities involved a malfunctioning or poorly maintained gun, such as Brandon Lee.
To sum up - It is completely possible to cause injury or death with air pressure, but the death zone is basically touching the other person. Anyone with a sword could simply cut off the hand holding the "air sword", so this weapon would be completely impractical.
One other thing to consider. Blanks are meant to be a safe way to fire a gun on-screen. Real bullets came first. If you have the tech to get air moving at the speed required to injure or kill, you already have the technology to make a real gun that fires lead projectiles.
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A wind with maximum sharpness is a discontinuity - where the velocity suddenly changes between different regions of aim, rather than continuously (gradually) changing from one velocity to another.
I don't know how dangerous air shock waves are, but water shock waves can klll you underwater. Probably, a sufficiently strong air shock wave (i.e. large enough change in velocity) will be as deadly as you want.
Shockwaves are commonly spherical, heading out in all directions from a point, but I think some directionality must be possible, just as sound wave and light waves can have some directionality. Perhaps, originating from within a pipe?
However, a shock wave generated by a sword slashing (extremely quickly) would travel laterally to the sword - like the bow wave of a ship. A force-push (extremely quickly) might work better.
disclaimer all off the top of my head, not an expert
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No, its not really possible.
Sound is just a pressure wave. If you have a powerful enough sound wave, it can do some damage.
Loudest possible sound wave is 194 decibels. This is a result of the wave trough being a vacuum (and the wave crest being 2 atm.)
This sound level is considered approximately the level required to be fatal. Human studies are necessarily restricted. It is thought that this sound level could induce fatal embolisms in the lungs.
Since flesh has considerable flexibility, it is resilient against sonic assault. Something rigid like glass or concrete would be more easily damaged, and can in fact be destroyed when a frequency closely match to a natural vibration mode is used. This is not a sonic cutting attack though.
194 Db is not powerful enough to cut flesh. So, you cannot use a cutting sound strike no matter how you wave your weapon. In theory, if your weapon was large enough, and moving fast enough, it could be sufficient to cause damage due to hearing hearing loss, or even a stunning effect, but never cut flesh.
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Not possible without also ejecting particulate matter. If it could be done then people would be cut into pieces by standing near a helicopter or aircraft propeller.
The only solution would be to use sand or shot blasting. Even then, if your opponent was wearing armour, the worst you are likely to do is clean it for them.
You would also require quite a lot of equipment.
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Just to add to your answer, a sand blaster type weapon could easily harm someone in armour if pointed at their helmet. It would go in between the gaps in the eye slits if they were wearing a closed face helmet. I know that i, for one, would not want highly pressurised sand fired into my eyes. If they were in an open face helmet... yeah, i dont think they are going to have a good time at all. If you used metal fillings instead, it might cause lacerations or if you used a powder it could cause someone to choke as they inhaled it.
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@LiamMorris heck, with enough pressure, you can use water and the guy won't see again.
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– John Dvorak
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@JohnDvorak You could yes, you could even put gravel or sand in with it and then you’ve got yourself a water cutter, at close range they can cut through steel.
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Not possible without also ejecting particulate matter. If it could be done then people would be cut into pieces by standing near a helicopter or aircraft propeller.
The only solution would be to use sand or shot blasting. Even then, if your opponent was wearing armour, the worst you are likely to do is clean it for them.
You would also require quite a lot of equipment.
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Just to add to your answer, a sand blaster type weapon could easily harm someone in armour if pointed at their helmet. It would go in between the gaps in the eye slits if they were wearing a closed face helmet. I know that i, for one, would not want highly pressurised sand fired into my eyes. If they were in an open face helmet... yeah, i dont think they are going to have a good time at all. If you used metal fillings instead, it might cause lacerations or if you used a powder it could cause someone to choke as they inhaled it.
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– Liam Morris
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@LiamMorris heck, with enough pressure, you can use water and the guy won't see again.
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– John Dvorak
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@JohnDvorak You could yes, you could even put gravel or sand in with it and then you’ve got yourself a water cutter, at close range they can cut through steel.
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– Liam Morris
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Not possible without also ejecting particulate matter. If it could be done then people would be cut into pieces by standing near a helicopter or aircraft propeller.
The only solution would be to use sand or shot blasting. Even then, if your opponent was wearing armour, the worst you are likely to do is clean it for them.
You would also require quite a lot of equipment.
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Not possible without also ejecting particulate matter. If it could be done then people would be cut into pieces by standing near a helicopter or aircraft propeller.
The only solution would be to use sand or shot blasting. Even then, if your opponent was wearing armour, the worst you are likely to do is clean it for them.
You would also require quite a lot of equipment.
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Just to add to your answer, a sand blaster type weapon could easily harm someone in armour if pointed at their helmet. It would go in between the gaps in the eye slits if they were wearing a closed face helmet. I know that i, for one, would not want highly pressurised sand fired into my eyes. If they were in an open face helmet... yeah, i dont think they are going to have a good time at all. If you used metal fillings instead, it might cause lacerations or if you used a powder it could cause someone to choke as they inhaled it.
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– Liam Morris
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@LiamMorris heck, with enough pressure, you can use water and the guy won't see again.
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– John Dvorak
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@JohnDvorak You could yes, you could even put gravel or sand in with it and then you’ve got yourself a water cutter, at close range they can cut through steel.
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– Liam Morris
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Just to add to your answer, a sand blaster type weapon could easily harm someone in armour if pointed at their helmet. It would go in between the gaps in the eye slits if they were wearing a closed face helmet. I know that i, for one, would not want highly pressurised sand fired into my eyes. If they were in an open face helmet... yeah, i dont think they are going to have a good time at all. If you used metal fillings instead, it might cause lacerations or if you used a powder it could cause someone to choke as they inhaled it.
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– Liam Morris
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@LiamMorris heck, with enough pressure, you can use water and the guy won't see again.
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– John Dvorak
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@JohnDvorak You could yes, you could even put gravel or sand in with it and then you’ve got yourself a water cutter, at close range they can cut through steel.
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– Liam Morris
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Just to add to your answer, a sand blaster type weapon could easily harm someone in armour if pointed at their helmet. It would go in between the gaps in the eye slits if they were wearing a closed face helmet. I know that i, for one, would not want highly pressurised sand fired into my eyes. If they were in an open face helmet... yeah, i dont think they are going to have a good time at all. If you used metal fillings instead, it might cause lacerations or if you used a powder it could cause someone to choke as they inhaled it.
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– Liam Morris
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Just to add to your answer, a sand blaster type weapon could easily harm someone in armour if pointed at their helmet. It would go in between the gaps in the eye slits if they were wearing a closed face helmet. I know that i, for one, would not want highly pressurised sand fired into my eyes. If they were in an open face helmet... yeah, i dont think they are going to have a good time at all. If you used metal fillings instead, it might cause lacerations or if you used a powder it could cause someone to choke as they inhaled it.
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– Liam Morris
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@LiamMorris heck, with enough pressure, you can use water and the guy won't see again.
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– John Dvorak
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@LiamMorris heck, with enough pressure, you can use water and the guy won't see again.
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@JohnDvorak You could yes, you could even put gravel or sand in with it and then you’ve got yourself a water cutter, at close range they can cut through steel.
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@JohnDvorak You could yes, you could even put gravel or sand in with it and then you’ve got yourself a water cutter, at close range they can cut through steel.
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A metal cutting water jet shoots at 760 m/s you could attach one to your sword.
Speed of sound 343 m/s if your character arm
can move that fast? Then there is compressed air in a air gun. (why not just use throwing weapon or a gun)
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well this is just quriousity how to make wind cut/slash posible not the practicality or alternative although the wind contain sand or other substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base except maybe if the water vapour or the subtance can do such reaction, and at least i think for melee weapon it can be a surprise attack against opponent that stay out of range of the melee weapon. besides i can just make the world dont have gun or long range weapon because of tradition.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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since i cant edit it anymore just to be more clear: i mean the wind contain small sand or dust or other small particle substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base to me except maybe if the water vapour or the small subtance can still do such reaction.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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Waterjust are dangerous at point-blank range, but I think their effectiveness drops off very quickly so they're not much good as ranged weapons. Waterjets were at one time considered for antitank "melee" weapons varried by infantry, but were (and I think still are) too big and heavy for practical use. Might not always be that way, of course...
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– Starfish Prime
14 hours ago
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I don't see how a water jet qualifies as wind.
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– L.Dutch♦
14 hours ago
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A metal cutting water jet shoots at 760 m/s you could attach one to your sword.
Speed of sound 343 m/s if your character arm
can move that fast? Then there is compressed air in a air gun. (why not just use throwing weapon or a gun)
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well this is just quriousity how to make wind cut/slash posible not the practicality or alternative although the wind contain sand or other substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base except maybe if the water vapour or the subtance can do such reaction, and at least i think for melee weapon it can be a surprise attack against opponent that stay out of range of the melee weapon. besides i can just make the world dont have gun or long range weapon because of tradition.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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since i cant edit it anymore just to be more clear: i mean the wind contain small sand or dust or other small particle substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base to me except maybe if the water vapour or the small subtance can still do such reaction.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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Waterjust are dangerous at point-blank range, but I think their effectiveness drops off very quickly so they're not much good as ranged weapons. Waterjets were at one time considered for antitank "melee" weapons varried by infantry, but were (and I think still are) too big and heavy for practical use. Might not always be that way, of course...
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– Starfish Prime
14 hours ago
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I don't see how a water jet qualifies as wind.
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– L.Dutch♦
14 hours ago
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A metal cutting water jet shoots at 760 m/s you could attach one to your sword.
Speed of sound 343 m/s if your character arm
can move that fast? Then there is compressed air in a air gun. (why not just use throwing weapon or a gun)
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A metal cutting water jet shoots at 760 m/s you could attach one to your sword.
Speed of sound 343 m/s if your character arm
can move that fast? Then there is compressed air in a air gun. (why not just use throwing weapon or a gun)
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well this is just quriousity how to make wind cut/slash posible not the practicality or alternative although the wind contain sand or other substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base except maybe if the water vapour or the subtance can do such reaction, and at least i think for melee weapon it can be a surprise attack against opponent that stay out of range of the melee weapon. besides i can just make the world dont have gun or long range weapon because of tradition.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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since i cant edit it anymore just to be more clear: i mean the wind contain small sand or dust or other small particle substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base to me except maybe if the water vapour or the small subtance can still do such reaction.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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Waterjust are dangerous at point-blank range, but I think their effectiveness drops off very quickly so they're not much good as ranged weapons. Waterjets were at one time considered for antitank "melee" weapons varried by infantry, but were (and I think still are) too big and heavy for practical use. Might not always be that way, of course...
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– Starfish Prime
14 hours ago
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I don't see how a water jet qualifies as wind.
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– L.Dutch♦
14 hours ago
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well this is just quriousity how to make wind cut/slash posible not the practicality or alternative although the wind contain sand or other substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base except maybe if the water vapour or the subtance can do such reaction, and at least i think for melee weapon it can be a surprise attack against opponent that stay out of range of the melee weapon. besides i can just make the world dont have gun or long range weapon because of tradition.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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since i cant edit it anymore just to be more clear: i mean the wind contain small sand or dust or other small particle substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base to me except maybe if the water vapour or the small subtance can still do such reaction.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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Waterjust are dangerous at point-blank range, but I think their effectiveness drops off very quickly so they're not much good as ranged weapons. Waterjets were at one time considered for antitank "melee" weapons varried by infantry, but were (and I think still are) too big and heavy for practical use. Might not always be that way, of course...
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– Starfish Prime
14 hours ago
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I don't see how a water jet qualifies as wind.
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– L.Dutch♦
14 hours ago
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well this is just quriousity how to make wind cut/slash posible not the practicality or alternative although the wind contain sand or other substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base except maybe if the water vapour or the subtance can do such reaction, and at least i think for melee weapon it can be a surprise attack against opponent that stay out of range of the melee weapon. besides i can just make the world dont have gun or long range weapon because of tradition.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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well this is just quriousity how to make wind cut/slash posible not the practicality or alternative although the wind contain sand or other substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base except maybe if the water vapour or the subtance can do such reaction, and at least i think for melee weapon it can be a surprise attack against opponent that stay out of range of the melee weapon. besides i can just make the world dont have gun or long range weapon because of tradition.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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since i cant edit it anymore just to be more clear: i mean the wind contain small sand or dust or other small particle substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base to me except maybe if the water vapour or the small subtance can still do such reaction.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
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since i cant edit it anymore just to be more clear: i mean the wind contain small sand or dust or other small particle substance that can make it happen is aceptable to me, but unfortunately i consider water jet is an alternative not really wind base to me except maybe if the water vapour or the small subtance can still do such reaction.
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– Li Jun
16 hours ago
1
1
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Waterjust are dangerous at point-blank range, but I think their effectiveness drops off very quickly so they're not much good as ranged weapons. Waterjets were at one time considered for antitank "melee" weapons varried by infantry, but were (and I think still are) too big and heavy for practical use. Might not always be that way, of course...
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– Starfish Prime
14 hours ago
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Waterjust are dangerous at point-blank range, but I think their effectiveness drops off very quickly so they're not much good as ranged weapons. Waterjets were at one time considered for antitank "melee" weapons varried by infantry, but were (and I think still are) too big and heavy for practical use. Might not always be that way, of course...
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– Starfish Prime
14 hours ago
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I don't see how a water jet qualifies as wind.
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– L.Dutch♦
14 hours ago
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I don't see how a water jet qualifies as wind.
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14 hours ago
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As pointed out in the adjoining replies, a blast/slash of air cannot occur on its own, from a physical viewpoint. You can either compress that air and direct it at the target and this would require insanely high precision to focus it and cause significant damage. Also, as the other reply states, "air slashes" are basically shock waves travelling in air. Now, from my knowledge of undergraduate fluid mechanics, a shock wave occurs when a fluid is made to undergo a careful transition from subsonic state to supersonic state by making it flow through a convergent-divergent nozzle. In order to create the shock wave at the exit plane of the nozzle (which literally is your weapon), you need to operate it very precisely under the "third design pressure ratio point" which, in practice, is too difficult to achieve. Also, once the shock wave exits the nozzle, it can no longer be treated as a one-dimensional wavefront, rather it becomes three-dimensional, expanding and dissipating exponentially. So, that would require your opponent to be present within a few meters of your reach.
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As pointed out in the adjoining replies, a blast/slash of air cannot occur on its own, from a physical viewpoint. You can either compress that air and direct it at the target and this would require insanely high precision to focus it and cause significant damage. Also, as the other reply states, "air slashes" are basically shock waves travelling in air. Now, from my knowledge of undergraduate fluid mechanics, a shock wave occurs when a fluid is made to undergo a careful transition from subsonic state to supersonic state by making it flow through a convergent-divergent nozzle. In order to create the shock wave at the exit plane of the nozzle (which literally is your weapon), you need to operate it very precisely under the "third design pressure ratio point" which, in practice, is too difficult to achieve. Also, once the shock wave exits the nozzle, it can no longer be treated as a one-dimensional wavefront, rather it becomes three-dimensional, expanding and dissipating exponentially. So, that would require your opponent to be present within a few meters of your reach.
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As pointed out in the adjoining replies, a blast/slash of air cannot occur on its own, from a physical viewpoint. You can either compress that air and direct it at the target and this would require insanely high precision to focus it and cause significant damage. Also, as the other reply states, "air slashes" are basically shock waves travelling in air. Now, from my knowledge of undergraduate fluid mechanics, a shock wave occurs when a fluid is made to undergo a careful transition from subsonic state to supersonic state by making it flow through a convergent-divergent nozzle. In order to create the shock wave at the exit plane of the nozzle (which literally is your weapon), you need to operate it very precisely under the "third design pressure ratio point" which, in practice, is too difficult to achieve. Also, once the shock wave exits the nozzle, it can no longer be treated as a one-dimensional wavefront, rather it becomes three-dimensional, expanding and dissipating exponentially. So, that would require your opponent to be present within a few meters of your reach.
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As pointed out in the adjoining replies, a blast/slash of air cannot occur on its own, from a physical viewpoint. You can either compress that air and direct it at the target and this would require insanely high precision to focus it and cause significant damage. Also, as the other reply states, "air slashes" are basically shock waves travelling in air. Now, from my knowledge of undergraduate fluid mechanics, a shock wave occurs when a fluid is made to undergo a careful transition from subsonic state to supersonic state by making it flow through a convergent-divergent nozzle. In order to create the shock wave at the exit plane of the nozzle (which literally is your weapon), you need to operate it very precisely under the "third design pressure ratio point" which, in practice, is too difficult to achieve. Also, once the shock wave exits the nozzle, it can no longer be treated as a one-dimensional wavefront, rather it becomes three-dimensional, expanding and dissipating exponentially. So, that would require your opponent to be present within a few meters of your reach.
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It is possible to kill with air pressure, you just have to be REALLY CLOSE to do it
The only documented death I found from "air pressure" is Jon-Erik Hexum, who was bored on the set of his tv series. He had a gun loaded with blanks, and decided to play a fake game of Russian Roulette with his gun and the blank cartridges (i.e. put the gun on your temple and pull the trigger).
This is still not safe because of both the explosion created by the blank and the bits of paper and plastic moving at high speeds out of the muzzle. He died from a fractured skull and pieces of paper and plastic that were embedded in his brain.
Blanks cause injuries if put next to the skin.
Of course, millions of actors have been "shot" by blanks with no ill effects. Most on-set fatalities involved a malfunctioning or poorly maintained gun, such as Brandon Lee.
To sum up - It is completely possible to cause injury or death with air pressure, but the death zone is basically touching the other person. Anyone with a sword could simply cut off the hand holding the "air sword", so this weapon would be completely impractical.
One other thing to consider. Blanks are meant to be a safe way to fire a gun on-screen. Real bullets came first. If you have the tech to get air moving at the speed required to injure or kill, you already have the technology to make a real gun that fires lead projectiles.
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It is possible to kill with air pressure, you just have to be REALLY CLOSE to do it
The only documented death I found from "air pressure" is Jon-Erik Hexum, who was bored on the set of his tv series. He had a gun loaded with blanks, and decided to play a fake game of Russian Roulette with his gun and the blank cartridges (i.e. put the gun on your temple and pull the trigger).
This is still not safe because of both the explosion created by the blank and the bits of paper and plastic moving at high speeds out of the muzzle. He died from a fractured skull and pieces of paper and plastic that were embedded in his brain.
Blanks cause injuries if put next to the skin.
Of course, millions of actors have been "shot" by blanks with no ill effects. Most on-set fatalities involved a malfunctioning or poorly maintained gun, such as Brandon Lee.
To sum up - It is completely possible to cause injury or death with air pressure, but the death zone is basically touching the other person. Anyone with a sword could simply cut off the hand holding the "air sword", so this weapon would be completely impractical.
One other thing to consider. Blanks are meant to be a safe way to fire a gun on-screen. Real bullets came first. If you have the tech to get air moving at the speed required to injure or kill, you already have the technology to make a real gun that fires lead projectiles.
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It is possible to kill with air pressure, you just have to be REALLY CLOSE to do it
The only documented death I found from "air pressure" is Jon-Erik Hexum, who was bored on the set of his tv series. He had a gun loaded with blanks, and decided to play a fake game of Russian Roulette with his gun and the blank cartridges (i.e. put the gun on your temple and pull the trigger).
This is still not safe because of both the explosion created by the blank and the bits of paper and plastic moving at high speeds out of the muzzle. He died from a fractured skull and pieces of paper and plastic that were embedded in his brain.
Blanks cause injuries if put next to the skin.
Of course, millions of actors have been "shot" by blanks with no ill effects. Most on-set fatalities involved a malfunctioning or poorly maintained gun, such as Brandon Lee.
To sum up - It is completely possible to cause injury or death with air pressure, but the death zone is basically touching the other person. Anyone with a sword could simply cut off the hand holding the "air sword", so this weapon would be completely impractical.
One other thing to consider. Blanks are meant to be a safe way to fire a gun on-screen. Real bullets came first. If you have the tech to get air moving at the speed required to injure or kill, you already have the technology to make a real gun that fires lead projectiles.
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It is possible to kill with air pressure, you just have to be REALLY CLOSE to do it
The only documented death I found from "air pressure" is Jon-Erik Hexum, who was bored on the set of his tv series. He had a gun loaded with blanks, and decided to play a fake game of Russian Roulette with his gun and the blank cartridges (i.e. put the gun on your temple and pull the trigger).
This is still not safe because of both the explosion created by the blank and the bits of paper and plastic moving at high speeds out of the muzzle. He died from a fractured skull and pieces of paper and plastic that were embedded in his brain.
Blanks cause injuries if put next to the skin.
Of course, millions of actors have been "shot" by blanks with no ill effects. Most on-set fatalities involved a malfunctioning or poorly maintained gun, such as Brandon Lee.
To sum up - It is completely possible to cause injury or death with air pressure, but the death zone is basically touching the other person. Anyone with a sword could simply cut off the hand holding the "air sword", so this weapon would be completely impractical.
One other thing to consider. Blanks are meant to be a safe way to fire a gun on-screen. Real bullets came first. If you have the tech to get air moving at the speed required to injure or kill, you already have the technology to make a real gun that fires lead projectiles.
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A wind with maximum sharpness is a discontinuity - where the velocity suddenly changes between different regions of aim, rather than continuously (gradually) changing from one velocity to another.
I don't know how dangerous air shock waves are, but water shock waves can klll you underwater. Probably, a sufficiently strong air shock wave (i.e. large enough change in velocity) will be as deadly as you want.
Shockwaves are commonly spherical, heading out in all directions from a point, but I think some directionality must be possible, just as sound wave and light waves can have some directionality. Perhaps, originating from within a pipe?
However, a shock wave generated by a sword slashing (extremely quickly) would travel laterally to the sword - like the bow wave of a ship. A force-push (extremely quickly) might work better.
disclaimer all off the top of my head, not an expert
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A wind with maximum sharpness is a discontinuity - where the velocity suddenly changes between different regions of aim, rather than continuously (gradually) changing from one velocity to another.
I don't know how dangerous air shock waves are, but water shock waves can klll you underwater. Probably, a sufficiently strong air shock wave (i.e. large enough change in velocity) will be as deadly as you want.
Shockwaves are commonly spherical, heading out in all directions from a point, but I think some directionality must be possible, just as sound wave and light waves can have some directionality. Perhaps, originating from within a pipe?
However, a shock wave generated by a sword slashing (extremely quickly) would travel laterally to the sword - like the bow wave of a ship. A force-push (extremely quickly) might work better.
disclaimer all off the top of my head, not an expert
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A wind with maximum sharpness is a discontinuity - where the velocity suddenly changes between different regions of aim, rather than continuously (gradually) changing from one velocity to another.
I don't know how dangerous air shock waves are, but water shock waves can klll you underwater. Probably, a sufficiently strong air shock wave (i.e. large enough change in velocity) will be as deadly as you want.
Shockwaves are commonly spherical, heading out in all directions from a point, but I think some directionality must be possible, just as sound wave and light waves can have some directionality. Perhaps, originating from within a pipe?
However, a shock wave generated by a sword slashing (extremely quickly) would travel laterally to the sword - like the bow wave of a ship. A force-push (extremely quickly) might work better.
disclaimer all off the top of my head, not an expert
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A wind with maximum sharpness is a discontinuity - where the velocity suddenly changes between different regions of aim, rather than continuously (gradually) changing from one velocity to another.
I don't know how dangerous air shock waves are, but water shock waves can klll you underwater. Probably, a sufficiently strong air shock wave (i.e. large enough change in velocity) will be as deadly as you want.
Shockwaves are commonly spherical, heading out in all directions from a point, but I think some directionality must be possible, just as sound wave and light waves can have some directionality. Perhaps, originating from within a pipe?
However, a shock wave generated by a sword slashing (extremely quickly) would travel laterally to the sword - like the bow wave of a ship. A force-push (extremely quickly) might work better.
disclaimer all off the top of my head, not an expert
answered 12 hours ago
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No, its not really possible.
Sound is just a pressure wave. If you have a powerful enough sound wave, it can do some damage.
Loudest possible sound wave is 194 decibels. This is a result of the wave trough being a vacuum (and the wave crest being 2 atm.)
This sound level is considered approximately the level required to be fatal. Human studies are necessarily restricted. It is thought that this sound level could induce fatal embolisms in the lungs.
Since flesh has considerable flexibility, it is resilient against sonic assault. Something rigid like glass or concrete would be more easily damaged, and can in fact be destroyed when a frequency closely match to a natural vibration mode is used. This is not a sonic cutting attack though.
194 Db is not powerful enough to cut flesh. So, you cannot use a cutting sound strike no matter how you wave your weapon. In theory, if your weapon was large enough, and moving fast enough, it could be sufficient to cause damage due to hearing hearing loss, or even a stunning effect, but never cut flesh.
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No, its not really possible.
Sound is just a pressure wave. If you have a powerful enough sound wave, it can do some damage.
Loudest possible sound wave is 194 decibels. This is a result of the wave trough being a vacuum (and the wave crest being 2 atm.)
This sound level is considered approximately the level required to be fatal. Human studies are necessarily restricted. It is thought that this sound level could induce fatal embolisms in the lungs.
Since flesh has considerable flexibility, it is resilient against sonic assault. Something rigid like glass or concrete would be more easily damaged, and can in fact be destroyed when a frequency closely match to a natural vibration mode is used. This is not a sonic cutting attack though.
194 Db is not powerful enough to cut flesh. So, you cannot use a cutting sound strike no matter how you wave your weapon. In theory, if your weapon was large enough, and moving fast enough, it could be sufficient to cause damage due to hearing hearing loss, or even a stunning effect, but never cut flesh.
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No, its not really possible.
Sound is just a pressure wave. If you have a powerful enough sound wave, it can do some damage.
Loudest possible sound wave is 194 decibels. This is a result of the wave trough being a vacuum (and the wave crest being 2 atm.)
This sound level is considered approximately the level required to be fatal. Human studies are necessarily restricted. It is thought that this sound level could induce fatal embolisms in the lungs.
Since flesh has considerable flexibility, it is resilient against sonic assault. Something rigid like glass or concrete would be more easily damaged, and can in fact be destroyed when a frequency closely match to a natural vibration mode is used. This is not a sonic cutting attack though.
194 Db is not powerful enough to cut flesh. So, you cannot use a cutting sound strike no matter how you wave your weapon. In theory, if your weapon was large enough, and moving fast enough, it could be sufficient to cause damage due to hearing hearing loss, or even a stunning effect, but never cut flesh.
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No, its not really possible.
Sound is just a pressure wave. If you have a powerful enough sound wave, it can do some damage.
Loudest possible sound wave is 194 decibels. This is a result of the wave trough being a vacuum (and the wave crest being 2 atm.)
This sound level is considered approximately the level required to be fatal. Human studies are necessarily restricted. It is thought that this sound level could induce fatal embolisms in the lungs.
Since flesh has considerable flexibility, it is resilient against sonic assault. Something rigid like glass or concrete would be more easily damaged, and can in fact be destroyed when a frequency closely match to a natural vibration mode is used. This is not a sonic cutting attack though.
194 Db is not powerful enough to cut flesh. So, you cannot use a cutting sound strike no matter how you wave your weapon. In theory, if your weapon was large enough, and moving fast enough, it could be sufficient to cause damage due to hearing hearing loss, or even a stunning effect, but never cut flesh.
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I don't know about slashing, but a burst of air that causes impact damage seems possible if you could make a more powerful version of the air bazooka toy. It seems all you need is a tube and a plunger. Even the toy version that just uses a little band can deliver quite a bit of force from a few 10s of feet. If the plunger was powerful enough you could probably get a lot of force.
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– user4574
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I'm going to have to think about this one. Offhand, an "air blade" wont be able to cut anything. However, I am going to have to think about whether an air vortex can drill into something. Vortexes have the advantage of keeping power localized. I'm just not sure what happens when a vortex tries to go supersonic.
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– Cort Ammon
12 hours ago
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You really need something moving at supersonic speeds, really close. E.g. Thrust SSC or jet fighter making low pass.
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– jamesqf
9 hours ago
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Probably the closest real thing but still not really close: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech
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– Ville Niemi
8 hours ago
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As in the above is what would happen if you attached your katana to a gas turbine so that it rotates at supersonic speed. Note the reported side effects.
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– Ville Niemi
8 hours ago