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Six real numbers so that product of any five is the sixth one
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One needs to choose six real numbers $x_1,x_2,cdots,x_6$ such that the product of any five of them is equal to other number. The number of such choices is
A) $3$
B) $33$
C) $63$
D) $93$
I believe this is not so hard problem but I got no clue to proceed. The work I did till now.
Say the numbers be $a,b,c,d,e, abcde$. Then, $bcdot ccdot dcdot ecdot abcde=a$ hence $bcde= +-1$.
Basically I couldn't even find a single occasion where such things occcur except all of these numbers being either $1$ or $-1$. Are these all cases?
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One needs to choose six real numbers $x_1,x_2,cdots,x_6$ such that the product of any five of them is equal to other number. The number of such choices is
A) $3$
B) $33$
C) $63$
D) $93$
I believe this is not so hard problem but I got no clue to proceed. The work I did till now.
Say the numbers be $a,b,c,d,e, abcde$. Then, $bcdot ccdot dcdot ecdot abcde=a$ hence $bcde= +-1$.
Basically I couldn't even find a single occasion where such things occcur except all of these numbers being either $1$ or $-1$. Are these all cases?
combinatorics
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They could all be $0$ (unless the image, which I can't access right now, has a rule forbidding that).
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I have typed out your image - pleas do this in the future so users such as @J.G. can view your whole question
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For extra credit: how many complex numbers? {i,i,i,i,i,i,i} is one solution. Heck, how many quaternions?.
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One needs to choose six real numbers $x_1,x_2,cdots,x_6$ such that the product of any five of them is equal to other number. The number of such choices is
A) $3$
B) $33$
C) $63$
D) $93$
I believe this is not so hard problem but I got no clue to proceed. The work I did till now.
Say the numbers be $a,b,c,d,e, abcde$. Then, $bcdot ccdot dcdot ecdot abcde=a$ hence $bcde= +-1$.
Basically I couldn't even find a single occasion where such things occcur except all of these numbers being either $1$ or $-1$. Are these all cases?
combinatorics
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One needs to choose six real numbers $x_1,x_2,cdots,x_6$ such that the product of any five of them is equal to other number. The number of such choices is
A) $3$
B) $33$
C) $63$
D) $93$
I believe this is not so hard problem but I got no clue to proceed. The work I did till now.
Say the numbers be $a,b,c,d,e, abcde$. Then, $bcdot ccdot dcdot ecdot abcde=a$ hence $bcde= +-1$.
Basically I couldn't even find a single occasion where such things occcur except all of these numbers being either $1$ or $-1$. Are these all cases?
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They could all be $0$ (unless the image, which I can't access right now, has a rule forbidding that).
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I have typed out your image - pleas do this in the future so users such as @J.G. can view your whole question
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– lioness99a
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For extra credit: how many complex numbers? {i,i,i,i,i,i,i} is one solution. Heck, how many quaternions?.
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They could all be $0$ (unless the image, which I can't access right now, has a rule forbidding that).
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I have typed out your image - pleas do this in the future so users such as @J.G. can view your whole question
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– lioness99a
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For extra credit: how many complex numbers? {i,i,i,i,i,i,i} is one solution. Heck, how many quaternions?.
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– Carl Witthoft
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They could all be $0$ (unless the image, which I can't access right now, has a rule forbidding that).
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– J.G.
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They could all be $0$ (unless the image, which I can't access right now, has a rule forbidding that).
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– J.G.
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I have typed out your image - pleas do this in the future so users such as @J.G. can view your whole question
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I have typed out your image - pleas do this in the future so users such as @J.G. can view your whole question
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– lioness99a
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For extra credit: how many complex numbers? {i,i,i,i,i,i,i} is one solution. Heck, how many quaternions?.
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– Carl Witthoft
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For extra credit: how many complex numbers? {i,i,i,i,i,i,i} is one solution. Heck, how many quaternions?.
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Well, if there are an even number of “1”s and “-1”s, then the property holds, so that’s $binom{6}{0}+ binom{6}{2}+ binom{6}{4}+ binom{6}{6}=32$. And then there’s the case that they’re all zero. Thus, there are 33 total cases.
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I was in right direction then. These two last options just confused me. I was thinking there could be much more elements.
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You have made no argument as to why this accounts for all cases...
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Here's an argument which extends to $n$ real numbers quite nicely! We can start by noting that
$$x_1 (x_2x_3x_4x_5x_6) = x_1^2$$
And by commutativity, we get that in fact all the magnitudes are equal.
Now if $L$ is the magnitude, we also must have $L = L^5$, and from this we can conclude that $L=0$ or $1$.
Now we just have to go through the possibilities. If $L = 0$, then we have all $0$'s
If $L = 1$, then we have all $-1$'s and $1$'s. This configuration works iff the number of $-1$'s is even, as this would imply that
$$frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{1} = 1 text{ and } frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{-1} = -1$$
Now we can count configurations. There will be
$$sum_{i=0}^3 binom{6}{2i} = 2^5$$
possibilities. And finally, we have $1+32 = 33$.
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the 2n+1 real number case is pretty much the same, you just add all the cases where there are an even number of “-1”s. so I guess generally it’s $sum_{i=0}^n binom{n}{2i}$
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Good point! I'm not sure why I restricted myself to $2n$. Anyways, I'll go and replace $2n$ with $n$ now.
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Just to make the solution more explicit, the product of all six values is the square of any one of them, so they're all $pm k$ for some $k$, and $k^6=k^2implies kin{0,,1}$. We get one $k=0$ solution and, because we require a non-negative product, one $k=1$ solution for each choice of six $pm 1$s with an even number of $-1$s. Famously, the numbers of even- and odd-sized subsets of a finite non-empty set are equal, and so the total number of solutions is $1+frac12cdot2^6$, i.e. B)
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HINT:
It is obvious that you need to have the numbers absolute value equal to $1$ (besides one special case but we get to that later). The question is how to set the signs of these $1$s. The product will be negative if you have an odd number of negative signs in it and positive whenever you have an even number of negative signs. Since you are to determine signs for an even number of $1$s if you decide to give an even number of them a negative sign you have one of the following two situations
the $1$ that is NOT in the product has negative sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-1=text{odd}$ number of negative signs distributed along the other five $1$s which result in $-1$ so the condition is fullfilled
the $1$ that in NOT in the product has positive sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-0=text{even}$ number of negative signs distributed along the five other $1$s which result in $+1$ so the condition is once again fullfilled.
So your question translates to in how many ways can you distribute an even number of negative signs among the six $1$s. This is solved in the easiest way by considering the number of ways to distribute $0,2,4$ and $6$ negative signs.
Finally the one solution not having to deal with $1$s is the one dealing with all zeros.
Hope this helped
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Actually, I think there are other configurations. For example, $2$ $-1$'s and $4$ $1$'s also works
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@IsaacBrowne Isn’t that the case with 2 -1’s, which was counted?
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Well, if there are an even number of “1”s and “-1”s, then the property holds, so that’s $binom{6}{0}+ binom{6}{2}+ binom{6}{4}+ binom{6}{6}=32$. And then there’s the case that they’re all zero. Thus, there are 33 total cases.
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I was in right direction then. These two last options just confused me. I was thinking there could be much more elements.
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– ChakSayantan
15 hours ago
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You have made no argument as to why this accounts for all cases...
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Well, if there are an even number of “1”s and “-1”s, then the property holds, so that’s $binom{6}{0}+ binom{6}{2}+ binom{6}{4}+ binom{6}{6}=32$. And then there’s the case that they’re all zero. Thus, there are 33 total cases.
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I was in right direction then. These two last options just confused me. I was thinking there could be much more elements.
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– ChakSayantan
15 hours ago
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You have made no argument as to why this accounts for all cases...
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Well, if there are an even number of “1”s and “-1”s, then the property holds, so that’s $binom{6}{0}+ binom{6}{2}+ binom{6}{4}+ binom{6}{6}=32$. And then there’s the case that they’re all zero. Thus, there are 33 total cases.
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Well, if there are an even number of “1”s and “-1”s, then the property holds, so that’s $binom{6}{0}+ binom{6}{2}+ binom{6}{4}+ binom{6}{6}=32$. And then there’s the case that they’re all zero. Thus, there are 33 total cases.
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I was in right direction then. These two last options just confused me. I was thinking there could be much more elements.
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– ChakSayantan
15 hours ago
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You have made no argument as to why this accounts for all cases...
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– Morgan Rogers
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I was in right direction then. These two last options just confused me. I was thinking there could be much more elements.
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– ChakSayantan
15 hours ago
37
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You have made no argument as to why this accounts for all cases...
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– Morgan Rogers
9 hours ago
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I was in right direction then. These two last options just confused me. I was thinking there could be much more elements.
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– ChakSayantan
15 hours ago
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I was in right direction then. These two last options just confused me. I was thinking there could be much more elements.
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– ChakSayantan
15 hours ago
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You have made no argument as to why this accounts for all cases...
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– Morgan Rogers
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You have made no argument as to why this accounts for all cases...
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Here's an argument which extends to $n$ real numbers quite nicely! We can start by noting that
$$x_1 (x_2x_3x_4x_5x_6) = x_1^2$$
And by commutativity, we get that in fact all the magnitudes are equal.
Now if $L$ is the magnitude, we also must have $L = L^5$, and from this we can conclude that $L=0$ or $1$.
Now we just have to go through the possibilities. If $L = 0$, then we have all $0$'s
If $L = 1$, then we have all $-1$'s and $1$'s. This configuration works iff the number of $-1$'s is even, as this would imply that
$$frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{1} = 1 text{ and } frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{-1} = -1$$
Now we can count configurations. There will be
$$sum_{i=0}^3 binom{6}{2i} = 2^5$$
possibilities. And finally, we have $1+32 = 33$.
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the 2n+1 real number case is pretty much the same, you just add all the cases where there are an even number of “-1”s. so I guess generally it’s $sum_{i=0}^n binom{n}{2i}$
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– Zachary Hunter
6 hours ago
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Good point! I'm not sure why I restricted myself to $2n$. Anyways, I'll go and replace $2n$ with $n$ now.
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– Isaac Browne
2 hours ago
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Here's an argument which extends to $n$ real numbers quite nicely! We can start by noting that
$$x_1 (x_2x_3x_4x_5x_6) = x_1^2$$
And by commutativity, we get that in fact all the magnitudes are equal.
Now if $L$ is the magnitude, we also must have $L = L^5$, and from this we can conclude that $L=0$ or $1$.
Now we just have to go through the possibilities. If $L = 0$, then we have all $0$'s
If $L = 1$, then we have all $-1$'s and $1$'s. This configuration works iff the number of $-1$'s is even, as this would imply that
$$frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{1} = 1 text{ and } frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{-1} = -1$$
Now we can count configurations. There will be
$$sum_{i=0}^3 binom{6}{2i} = 2^5$$
possibilities. And finally, we have $1+32 = 33$.
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the 2n+1 real number case is pretty much the same, you just add all the cases where there are an even number of “-1”s. so I guess generally it’s $sum_{i=0}^n binom{n}{2i}$
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– Zachary Hunter
6 hours ago
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Good point! I'm not sure why I restricted myself to $2n$. Anyways, I'll go and replace $2n$ with $n$ now.
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– Isaac Browne
2 hours ago
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Here's an argument which extends to $n$ real numbers quite nicely! We can start by noting that
$$x_1 (x_2x_3x_4x_5x_6) = x_1^2$$
And by commutativity, we get that in fact all the magnitudes are equal.
Now if $L$ is the magnitude, we also must have $L = L^5$, and from this we can conclude that $L=0$ or $1$.
Now we just have to go through the possibilities. If $L = 0$, then we have all $0$'s
If $L = 1$, then we have all $-1$'s and $1$'s. This configuration works iff the number of $-1$'s is even, as this would imply that
$$frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{1} = 1 text{ and } frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{-1} = -1$$
Now we can count configurations. There will be
$$sum_{i=0}^3 binom{6}{2i} = 2^5$$
possibilities. And finally, we have $1+32 = 33$.
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Here's an argument which extends to $n$ real numbers quite nicely! We can start by noting that
$$x_1 (x_2x_3x_4x_5x_6) = x_1^2$$
And by commutativity, we get that in fact all the magnitudes are equal.
Now if $L$ is the magnitude, we also must have $L = L^5$, and from this we can conclude that $L=0$ or $1$.
Now we just have to go through the possibilities. If $L = 0$, then we have all $0$'s
If $L = 1$, then we have all $-1$'s and $1$'s. This configuration works iff the number of $-1$'s is even, as this would imply that
$$frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{1} = 1 text{ and } frac{prod_{i=1}^6 x_i}{-1} = -1$$
Now we can count configurations. There will be
$$sum_{i=0}^3 binom{6}{2i} = 2^5$$
possibilities. And finally, we have $1+32 = 33$.
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the 2n+1 real number case is pretty much the same, you just add all the cases where there are an even number of “-1”s. so I guess generally it’s $sum_{i=0}^n binom{n}{2i}$
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– Zachary Hunter
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Good point! I'm not sure why I restricted myself to $2n$. Anyways, I'll go and replace $2n$ with $n$ now.
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– Isaac Browne
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the 2n+1 real number case is pretty much the same, you just add all the cases where there are an even number of “-1”s. so I guess generally it’s $sum_{i=0}^n binom{n}{2i}$
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– Zachary Hunter
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Good point! I'm not sure why I restricted myself to $2n$. Anyways, I'll go and replace $2n$ with $n$ now.
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– Isaac Browne
2 hours ago
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the 2n+1 real number case is pretty much the same, you just add all the cases where there are an even number of “-1”s. so I guess generally it’s $sum_{i=0}^n binom{n}{2i}$
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– Zachary Hunter
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the 2n+1 real number case is pretty much the same, you just add all the cases where there are an even number of “-1”s. so I guess generally it’s $sum_{i=0}^n binom{n}{2i}$
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– Zachary Hunter
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Good point! I'm not sure why I restricted myself to $2n$. Anyways, I'll go and replace $2n$ with $n$ now.
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– Isaac Browne
2 hours ago
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Good point! I'm not sure why I restricted myself to $2n$. Anyways, I'll go and replace $2n$ with $n$ now.
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Just to make the solution more explicit, the product of all six values is the square of any one of them, so they're all $pm k$ for some $k$, and $k^6=k^2implies kin{0,,1}$. We get one $k=0$ solution and, because we require a non-negative product, one $k=1$ solution for each choice of six $pm 1$s with an even number of $-1$s. Famously, the numbers of even- and odd-sized subsets of a finite non-empty set are equal, and so the total number of solutions is $1+frac12cdot2^6$, i.e. B)
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Just to make the solution more explicit, the product of all six values is the square of any one of them, so they're all $pm k$ for some $k$, and $k^6=k^2implies kin{0,,1}$. We get one $k=0$ solution and, because we require a non-negative product, one $k=1$ solution for each choice of six $pm 1$s with an even number of $-1$s. Famously, the numbers of even- and odd-sized subsets of a finite non-empty set are equal, and so the total number of solutions is $1+frac12cdot2^6$, i.e. B)
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Just to make the solution more explicit, the product of all six values is the square of any one of them, so they're all $pm k$ for some $k$, and $k^6=k^2implies kin{0,,1}$. We get one $k=0$ solution and, because we require a non-negative product, one $k=1$ solution for each choice of six $pm 1$s with an even number of $-1$s. Famously, the numbers of even- and odd-sized subsets of a finite non-empty set are equal, and so the total number of solutions is $1+frac12cdot2^6$, i.e. B)
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Just to make the solution more explicit, the product of all six values is the square of any one of them, so they're all $pm k$ for some $k$, and $k^6=k^2implies kin{0,,1}$. We get one $k=0$ solution and, because we require a non-negative product, one $k=1$ solution for each choice of six $pm 1$s with an even number of $-1$s. Famously, the numbers of even- and odd-sized subsets of a finite non-empty set are equal, and so the total number of solutions is $1+frac12cdot2^6$, i.e. B)
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HINT:
It is obvious that you need to have the numbers absolute value equal to $1$ (besides one special case but we get to that later). The question is how to set the signs of these $1$s. The product will be negative if you have an odd number of negative signs in it and positive whenever you have an even number of negative signs. Since you are to determine signs for an even number of $1$s if you decide to give an even number of them a negative sign you have one of the following two situations
the $1$ that is NOT in the product has negative sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-1=text{odd}$ number of negative signs distributed along the other five $1$s which result in $-1$ so the condition is fullfilled
the $1$ that in NOT in the product has positive sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-0=text{even}$ number of negative signs distributed along the five other $1$s which result in $+1$ so the condition is once again fullfilled.
So your question translates to in how many ways can you distribute an even number of negative signs among the six $1$s. This is solved in the easiest way by considering the number of ways to distribute $0,2,4$ and $6$ negative signs.
Finally the one solution not having to deal with $1$s is the one dealing with all zeros.
Hope this helped
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Actually, I think there are other configurations. For example, $2$ $-1$'s and $4$ $1$'s also works
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– Isaac Browne
15 hours ago
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@IsaacBrowne Isn’t that the case with 2 -1’s, which was counted?
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– Davislor
31 mins ago
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HINT:
It is obvious that you need to have the numbers absolute value equal to $1$ (besides one special case but we get to that later). The question is how to set the signs of these $1$s. The product will be negative if you have an odd number of negative signs in it and positive whenever you have an even number of negative signs. Since you are to determine signs for an even number of $1$s if you decide to give an even number of them a negative sign you have one of the following two situations
the $1$ that is NOT in the product has negative sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-1=text{odd}$ number of negative signs distributed along the other five $1$s which result in $-1$ so the condition is fullfilled
the $1$ that in NOT in the product has positive sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-0=text{even}$ number of negative signs distributed along the five other $1$s which result in $+1$ so the condition is once again fullfilled.
So your question translates to in how many ways can you distribute an even number of negative signs among the six $1$s. This is solved in the easiest way by considering the number of ways to distribute $0,2,4$ and $6$ negative signs.
Finally the one solution not having to deal with $1$s is the one dealing with all zeros.
Hope this helped
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Actually, I think there are other configurations. For example, $2$ $-1$'s and $4$ $1$'s also works
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– Isaac Browne
15 hours ago
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@IsaacBrowne Isn’t that the case with 2 -1’s, which was counted?
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– Davislor
31 mins ago
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HINT:
It is obvious that you need to have the numbers absolute value equal to $1$ (besides one special case but we get to that later). The question is how to set the signs of these $1$s. The product will be negative if you have an odd number of negative signs in it and positive whenever you have an even number of negative signs. Since you are to determine signs for an even number of $1$s if you decide to give an even number of them a negative sign you have one of the following two situations
the $1$ that is NOT in the product has negative sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-1=text{odd}$ number of negative signs distributed along the other five $1$s which result in $-1$ so the condition is fullfilled
the $1$ that in NOT in the product has positive sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-0=text{even}$ number of negative signs distributed along the five other $1$s which result in $+1$ so the condition is once again fullfilled.
So your question translates to in how many ways can you distribute an even number of negative signs among the six $1$s. This is solved in the easiest way by considering the number of ways to distribute $0,2,4$ and $6$ negative signs.
Finally the one solution not having to deal with $1$s is the one dealing with all zeros.
Hope this helped
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HINT:
It is obvious that you need to have the numbers absolute value equal to $1$ (besides one special case but we get to that later). The question is how to set the signs of these $1$s. The product will be negative if you have an odd number of negative signs in it and positive whenever you have an even number of negative signs. Since you are to determine signs for an even number of $1$s if you decide to give an even number of them a negative sign you have one of the following two situations
the $1$ that is NOT in the product has negative sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-1=text{odd}$ number of negative signs distributed along the other five $1$s which result in $-1$ so the condition is fullfilled
the $1$ that in NOT in the product has positive sign. In this case there are a $text{even}-0=text{even}$ number of negative signs distributed along the five other $1$s which result in $+1$ so the condition is once again fullfilled.
So your question translates to in how many ways can you distribute an even number of negative signs among the six $1$s. This is solved in the easiest way by considering the number of ways to distribute $0,2,4$ and $6$ negative signs.
Finally the one solution not having to deal with $1$s is the one dealing with all zeros.
Hope this helped
edited 9 hours ago
answered 15 hours ago
Vinyl_coat_jawaVinyl_coat_jawa
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Actually, I think there are other configurations. For example, $2$ $-1$'s and $4$ $1$'s also works
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– Isaac Browne
15 hours ago
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@IsaacBrowne Isn’t that the case with 2 -1’s, which was counted?
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– Davislor
31 mins ago
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3
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Actually, I think there are other configurations. For example, $2$ $-1$'s and $4$ $1$'s also works
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– Isaac Browne
15 hours ago
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@IsaacBrowne Isn’t that the case with 2 -1’s, which was counted?
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– Davislor
31 mins ago
3
3
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Actually, I think there are other configurations. For example, $2$ $-1$'s and $4$ $1$'s also works
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– Isaac Browne
15 hours ago
$begingroup$
Actually, I think there are other configurations. For example, $2$ $-1$'s and $4$ $1$'s also works
$endgroup$
– Isaac Browne
15 hours ago
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@IsaacBrowne Isn’t that the case with 2 -1’s, which was counted?
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– Davislor
31 mins ago
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@IsaacBrowne Isn’t that the case with 2 -1’s, which was counted?
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– Davislor
31 mins ago
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They could all be $0$ (unless the image, which I can't access right now, has a rule forbidding that).
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– J.G.
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I have typed out your image - pleas do this in the future so users such as @J.G. can view your whole question
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For extra credit: how many complex numbers? {i,i,i,i,i,i,i} is one solution. Heck, how many quaternions?.
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