Understanding CSS letter-spacing: is it valid to replace the default value of normal with 0?2019 Community...

What is this waxed root vegetable?

Sometimes a banana is just a banana

How to approximate rolls for potions of healing using only d6's?

Why does the author believe that the central mass that gas cloud HCN-0.009-0.044 orbits is smaller than our solar system?

I am on the US no-fly list. What can I do in order to be allowed on flights which go through US airspace?

Equivalent to "source" in OpenBSD?

I can't die. Who am I?

How to speed up a process

Replacement ford fiesta radiator has extra hose

How can atoms be electrically neutral when there is a difference in the positions of the charges?

CBP Reminds Travelers to Allow 72 Hours for ESTA. Why?

What am I? I am in theaters and computer programs

As a new poet, where can I find help from a professional to judge my work?

Auto Insert date into Notepad

If a druid in Wild Shape swallows a creature whole, then turns back to her normal form, what happens?

What's the difference between a cart and a wagon?

How would we write a misogynistic character without offending people?

If nine coins are tossed, what is the probability that the number of heads is even?

Can chords be played on the flute?

What is the wife of a henpecked husband called?

Casually inserting sexuality

Non-Italian European mafias in USA?

GeometricMean definition

Logistics of a hovering watercraft in a fantasy setting



Understanding CSS letter-spacing: is it valid to replace the default value of normal with 0?



2019 Community Moderator ElectionWhat are valid values for the id attribute in HTML?Which characters are valid in CSS class names/selectors?Is it valid to replace http:// with // in a <script src=“http://…”>?How can I set the default value for an HTML <select> element?CSS text justify with letter spacingIs there a way to make css letter-spacing: 0.5 px?Is background-color:none valid CSS?CSS letter-spacing SAFARICSS underline and letter-spacingInconsistent margin with em












13















According to this page, the CSS letter-spacing property has a default value of normal.



Notably, non-default values are added to the default value:




The most important point to note when using letter-spacing is that the
value specified does not change the default, it is added to the
default spacing the browser applies (based on the font metrics).
letter-spacing also supports negative values, which will tighten the
appearance of text, rather than loosening it.




According to this definition, 0 should be equivalent to the default value of normal since 0 + X = X.



1) Is it valid to use 0 as a replacement for the default value of normal? (This is for a slider implementation.)



2) Why isn't 0 the default value? Why introduce another value (i.e., normal)?



This test on CodePen also suggests a value of 0 is, indeed, equivalent to the default value of normal.



<p>This type has no additional letter-spacing applied.</p>

<p class="loose">This type is letter-spaced loosely at <code>2px</code>.</p>

<p class="tight">This type is letter-spaced tightly at <code>-1px</code></p>

<p class="zero">This type is letter-spaced at <code>0</code></p>

<p class="normal">This type is letter-spaced at <code>0</code></p>

.loose {
letter-spacing: 2px;
}

.tight {
letter-spacing: -1px;
}

.zero {
letter-spacing: 0;
}

.normal {
letter-spacing: normal;
}









share|improve this question


















  • 1





    Why the close votes?

    – Crashalot
    15 hours ago






  • 1





    w3.org/TR/css-text-3/#letter-spacing-property: normal No additional spacing is applied. Computes to zero. - It's just a keyword value

    – Pete
    15 hours ago













  • @Pete so you're saying normal and 0 are equivalent, right?

    – Crashalot
    15 hours ago











  • I assume so as that's the latest published version of css text module 3 and makes no mention of the user agent - drafts.csswg.org/css-values/#keywords

    – Pete
    15 hours ago


















13















According to this page, the CSS letter-spacing property has a default value of normal.



Notably, non-default values are added to the default value:




The most important point to note when using letter-spacing is that the
value specified does not change the default, it is added to the
default spacing the browser applies (based on the font metrics).
letter-spacing also supports negative values, which will tighten the
appearance of text, rather than loosening it.




According to this definition, 0 should be equivalent to the default value of normal since 0 + X = X.



1) Is it valid to use 0 as a replacement for the default value of normal? (This is for a slider implementation.)



2) Why isn't 0 the default value? Why introduce another value (i.e., normal)?



This test on CodePen also suggests a value of 0 is, indeed, equivalent to the default value of normal.



<p>This type has no additional letter-spacing applied.</p>

<p class="loose">This type is letter-spaced loosely at <code>2px</code>.</p>

<p class="tight">This type is letter-spaced tightly at <code>-1px</code></p>

<p class="zero">This type is letter-spaced at <code>0</code></p>

<p class="normal">This type is letter-spaced at <code>0</code></p>

.loose {
letter-spacing: 2px;
}

.tight {
letter-spacing: -1px;
}

.zero {
letter-spacing: 0;
}

.normal {
letter-spacing: normal;
}









share|improve this question


















  • 1





    Why the close votes?

    – Crashalot
    15 hours ago






  • 1





    w3.org/TR/css-text-3/#letter-spacing-property: normal No additional spacing is applied. Computes to zero. - It's just a keyword value

    – Pete
    15 hours ago













  • @Pete so you're saying normal and 0 are equivalent, right?

    – Crashalot
    15 hours ago











  • I assume so as that's the latest published version of css text module 3 and makes no mention of the user agent - drafts.csswg.org/css-values/#keywords

    – Pete
    15 hours ago
















13












13








13


1






According to this page, the CSS letter-spacing property has a default value of normal.



Notably, non-default values are added to the default value:




The most important point to note when using letter-spacing is that the
value specified does not change the default, it is added to the
default spacing the browser applies (based on the font metrics).
letter-spacing also supports negative values, which will tighten the
appearance of text, rather than loosening it.




According to this definition, 0 should be equivalent to the default value of normal since 0 + X = X.



1) Is it valid to use 0 as a replacement for the default value of normal? (This is for a slider implementation.)



2) Why isn't 0 the default value? Why introduce another value (i.e., normal)?



This test on CodePen also suggests a value of 0 is, indeed, equivalent to the default value of normal.



<p>This type has no additional letter-spacing applied.</p>

<p class="loose">This type is letter-spaced loosely at <code>2px</code>.</p>

<p class="tight">This type is letter-spaced tightly at <code>-1px</code></p>

<p class="zero">This type is letter-spaced at <code>0</code></p>

<p class="normal">This type is letter-spaced at <code>0</code></p>

.loose {
letter-spacing: 2px;
}

.tight {
letter-spacing: -1px;
}

.zero {
letter-spacing: 0;
}

.normal {
letter-spacing: normal;
}









share|improve this question














According to this page, the CSS letter-spacing property has a default value of normal.



Notably, non-default values are added to the default value:




The most important point to note when using letter-spacing is that the
value specified does not change the default, it is added to the
default spacing the browser applies (based on the font metrics).
letter-spacing also supports negative values, which will tighten the
appearance of text, rather than loosening it.




According to this definition, 0 should be equivalent to the default value of normal since 0 + X = X.



1) Is it valid to use 0 as a replacement for the default value of normal? (This is for a slider implementation.)



2) Why isn't 0 the default value? Why introduce another value (i.e., normal)?



This test on CodePen also suggests a value of 0 is, indeed, equivalent to the default value of normal.



<p>This type has no additional letter-spacing applied.</p>

<p class="loose">This type is letter-spaced loosely at <code>2px</code>.</p>

<p class="tight">This type is letter-spaced tightly at <code>-1px</code></p>

<p class="zero">This type is letter-spaced at <code>0</code></p>

<p class="normal">This type is letter-spaced at <code>0</code></p>

.loose {
letter-spacing: 2px;
}

.tight {
letter-spacing: -1px;
}

.zero {
letter-spacing: 0;
}

.normal {
letter-spacing: normal;
}






html css letter-spacing






share|improve this question













share|improve this question











share|improve this question




share|improve this question










asked 15 hours ago









CrashalotCrashalot

15.3k48189330




15.3k48189330








  • 1





    Why the close votes?

    – Crashalot
    15 hours ago






  • 1





    w3.org/TR/css-text-3/#letter-spacing-property: normal No additional spacing is applied. Computes to zero. - It's just a keyword value

    – Pete
    15 hours ago













  • @Pete so you're saying normal and 0 are equivalent, right?

    – Crashalot
    15 hours ago











  • I assume so as that's the latest published version of css text module 3 and makes no mention of the user agent - drafts.csswg.org/css-values/#keywords

    – Pete
    15 hours ago
















  • 1





    Why the close votes?

    – Crashalot
    15 hours ago






  • 1





    w3.org/TR/css-text-3/#letter-spacing-property: normal No additional spacing is applied. Computes to zero. - It's just a keyword value

    – Pete
    15 hours ago













  • @Pete so you're saying normal and 0 are equivalent, right?

    – Crashalot
    15 hours ago











  • I assume so as that's the latest published version of css text module 3 and makes no mention of the user agent - drafts.csswg.org/css-values/#keywords

    – Pete
    15 hours ago










1




1





Why the close votes?

– Crashalot
15 hours ago





Why the close votes?

– Crashalot
15 hours ago




1




1





w3.org/TR/css-text-3/#letter-spacing-property: normal No additional spacing is applied. Computes to zero. - It's just a keyword value

– Pete
15 hours ago







w3.org/TR/css-text-3/#letter-spacing-property: normal No additional spacing is applied. Computes to zero. - It's just a keyword value

– Pete
15 hours ago















@Pete so you're saying normal and 0 are equivalent, right?

– Crashalot
15 hours ago





@Pete so you're saying normal and 0 are equivalent, right?

– Crashalot
15 hours ago













I assume so as that's the latest published version of css text module 3 and makes no mention of the user agent - drafts.csswg.org/css-values/#keywords

– Pete
15 hours ago







I assume so as that's the latest published version of css text module 3 and makes no mention of the user agent - drafts.csswg.org/css-values/#keywords

– Pete
15 hours ago














2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes


















14














No both aren't exactly equivalent. If you check the current specification




normal



The spacing is the normal spacing for the current font. This value allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




Then




<length>



This value indicates inter-character space in addition to the default space between characters. Values may be negative, but there may be implementation-specific limits. User agents may not further increase or decrease the inter-character space in order to justify text.




In most of the cases, they will render the same but as you can read, the user agent doesn't handle both the same.





The definition in the Draft of the next level seems to have changed slightly and both are now the same.




For legacy reasons, a computed letter-spacing of zero yields a resolved value (getComputedStyle() return value) of normal..




You can also read here: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1484




CSS2 used to treat normal different than 0, so computing differently was a requirement. Now that the spec treats them the same ...






I don't know if all the browsers are already implementing this level but you can most likely consider them the same






share|improve this answer


























  • so in CSS2, it only differs for text-align: justify

    – gsnedders
    7 hours ago











  • @gsnedders yes it may differ with justify (not necessarely). Unfortunately I cannot proove it, I am trying to find if I can get a working example to show this difference.

    – Temani Afif
    7 hours ago



















2














According to the Mozzila docs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/letter-spacing#Values




The normal letter spacing for the current font. Unlike a value of 0, this keyword allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




Seems like 0 is more of a hard value to set it to the default. Normal can be modified by the user agent.






share|improve this answer























    Your Answer






    StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function () {
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function () {
    StackExchange.snippets.init();
    });
    });
    }, "code-snippets");

    StackExchange.ready(function() {
    var channelOptions = {
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "1"
    };
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
    createEditor();
    });
    }
    else {
    createEditor();
    }
    });

    function createEditor() {
    StackExchange.prepareEditor({
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
    convertImagesToLinks: true,
    noModals: true,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: 10,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    imageUploader: {
    brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
    contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
    allowUrls: true
    },
    onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    });


    }
    });














    draft saved

    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function () {
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fstackoverflow.com%2fquestions%2f54980706%2funderstanding-css-letter-spacing-is-it-valid-to-replace-the-default-value-of-no%23new-answer', 'question_page');
    }
    );

    Post as a guest















    Required, but never shown

























    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes








    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    14














    No both aren't exactly equivalent. If you check the current specification




    normal



    The spacing is the normal spacing for the current font. This value allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




    Then




    <length>



    This value indicates inter-character space in addition to the default space between characters. Values may be negative, but there may be implementation-specific limits. User agents may not further increase or decrease the inter-character space in order to justify text.




    In most of the cases, they will render the same but as you can read, the user agent doesn't handle both the same.





    The definition in the Draft of the next level seems to have changed slightly and both are now the same.




    For legacy reasons, a computed letter-spacing of zero yields a resolved value (getComputedStyle() return value) of normal..




    You can also read here: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1484




    CSS2 used to treat normal different than 0, so computing differently was a requirement. Now that the spec treats them the same ...






    I don't know if all the browsers are already implementing this level but you can most likely consider them the same






    share|improve this answer


























    • so in CSS2, it only differs for text-align: justify

      – gsnedders
      7 hours ago











    • @gsnedders yes it may differ with justify (not necessarely). Unfortunately I cannot proove it, I am trying to find if I can get a working example to show this difference.

      – Temani Afif
      7 hours ago
















    14














    No both aren't exactly equivalent. If you check the current specification




    normal



    The spacing is the normal spacing for the current font. This value allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




    Then




    <length>



    This value indicates inter-character space in addition to the default space between characters. Values may be negative, but there may be implementation-specific limits. User agents may not further increase or decrease the inter-character space in order to justify text.




    In most of the cases, they will render the same but as you can read, the user agent doesn't handle both the same.





    The definition in the Draft of the next level seems to have changed slightly and both are now the same.




    For legacy reasons, a computed letter-spacing of zero yields a resolved value (getComputedStyle() return value) of normal..




    You can also read here: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1484




    CSS2 used to treat normal different than 0, so computing differently was a requirement. Now that the spec treats them the same ...






    I don't know if all the browsers are already implementing this level but you can most likely consider them the same






    share|improve this answer


























    • so in CSS2, it only differs for text-align: justify

      – gsnedders
      7 hours ago











    • @gsnedders yes it may differ with justify (not necessarely). Unfortunately I cannot proove it, I am trying to find if I can get a working example to show this difference.

      – Temani Afif
      7 hours ago














    14












    14








    14







    No both aren't exactly equivalent. If you check the current specification




    normal



    The spacing is the normal spacing for the current font. This value allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




    Then




    <length>



    This value indicates inter-character space in addition to the default space between characters. Values may be negative, but there may be implementation-specific limits. User agents may not further increase or decrease the inter-character space in order to justify text.




    In most of the cases, they will render the same but as you can read, the user agent doesn't handle both the same.





    The definition in the Draft of the next level seems to have changed slightly and both are now the same.




    For legacy reasons, a computed letter-spacing of zero yields a resolved value (getComputedStyle() return value) of normal..




    You can also read here: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1484




    CSS2 used to treat normal different than 0, so computing differently was a requirement. Now that the spec treats them the same ...






    I don't know if all the browsers are already implementing this level but you can most likely consider them the same






    share|improve this answer















    No both aren't exactly equivalent. If you check the current specification




    normal



    The spacing is the normal spacing for the current font. This value allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




    Then




    <length>



    This value indicates inter-character space in addition to the default space between characters. Values may be negative, but there may be implementation-specific limits. User agents may not further increase or decrease the inter-character space in order to justify text.




    In most of the cases, they will render the same but as you can read, the user agent doesn't handle both the same.





    The definition in the Draft of the next level seems to have changed slightly and both are now the same.




    For legacy reasons, a computed letter-spacing of zero yields a resolved value (getComputedStyle() return value) of normal..




    You can also read here: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1484




    CSS2 used to treat normal different than 0, so computing differently was a requirement. Now that the spec treats them the same ...






    I don't know if all the browsers are already implementing this level but you can most likely consider them the same







    share|improve this answer














    share|improve this answer



    share|improve this answer








    edited 15 hours ago

























    answered 15 hours ago









    Temani AfifTemani Afif

    76.8k94490




    76.8k94490













    • so in CSS2, it only differs for text-align: justify

      – gsnedders
      7 hours ago











    • @gsnedders yes it may differ with justify (not necessarely). Unfortunately I cannot proove it, I am trying to find if I can get a working example to show this difference.

      – Temani Afif
      7 hours ago



















    • so in CSS2, it only differs for text-align: justify

      – gsnedders
      7 hours ago











    • @gsnedders yes it may differ with justify (not necessarely). Unfortunately I cannot proove it, I am trying to find if I can get a working example to show this difference.

      – Temani Afif
      7 hours ago

















    so in CSS2, it only differs for text-align: justify

    – gsnedders
    7 hours ago





    so in CSS2, it only differs for text-align: justify

    – gsnedders
    7 hours ago













    @gsnedders yes it may differ with justify (not necessarely). Unfortunately I cannot proove it, I am trying to find if I can get a working example to show this difference.

    – Temani Afif
    7 hours ago





    @gsnedders yes it may differ with justify (not necessarely). Unfortunately I cannot proove it, I am trying to find if I can get a working example to show this difference.

    – Temani Afif
    7 hours ago













    2














    According to the Mozzila docs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/letter-spacing#Values




    The normal letter spacing for the current font. Unlike a value of 0, this keyword allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




    Seems like 0 is more of a hard value to set it to the default. Normal can be modified by the user agent.






    share|improve this answer




























      2














      According to the Mozzila docs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/letter-spacing#Values




      The normal letter spacing for the current font. Unlike a value of 0, this keyword allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




      Seems like 0 is more of a hard value to set it to the default. Normal can be modified by the user agent.






      share|improve this answer


























        2












        2








        2







        According to the Mozzila docs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/letter-spacing#Values




        The normal letter spacing for the current font. Unlike a value of 0, this keyword allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




        Seems like 0 is more of a hard value to set it to the default. Normal can be modified by the user agent.






        share|improve this answer













        According to the Mozzila docs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/letter-spacing#Values




        The normal letter spacing for the current font. Unlike a value of 0, this keyword allows the user agent to alter the space between characters in order to justify text.




        Seems like 0 is more of a hard value to set it to the default. Normal can be modified by the user agent.







        share|improve this answer












        share|improve this answer



        share|improve this answer










        answered 15 hours ago









        Andreas FursterAndreas Furster

        9701524




        9701524






























            draft saved

            draft discarded




















































            Thanks for contributing an answer to Stack Overflow!


            • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

            But avoid



            • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

            • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


            To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fstackoverflow.com%2fquestions%2f54980706%2funderstanding-css-letter-spacing-is-it-valid-to-replace-the-default-value-of-no%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown





















































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown

































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown







            Popular posts from this blog

            El tren de la libertad Índice Antecedentes "Porque yo decido" Desarrollo de la...

            Castillo d'Acher Características Menú de navegación

            Connecting two nodes from the same mother node horizontallyTikZ: What EXACTLY does the the |- notation for...