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A respected Rabbinic figure recently mentioned that one of the Rishonim - maybe Tosfos - writes that אין דרך בני ישראל לשרוף מתיהם: burning a Jew's lifeless body is not the Jewish way. Where is this source?










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  • academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation

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  • related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/76446/shiva-and-cremation

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A respected Rabbinic figure recently mentioned that one of the Rishonim - maybe Tosfos - writes that אין דרך בני ישראל לשרוף מתיהם: burning a Jew's lifeless body is not the Jewish way. Where is this source?










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  • academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation

    – Loewian
    yesterday











  • related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/76446/shiva-and-cremation

    – Loewian
    yesterday














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A respected Rabbinic figure recently mentioned that one of the Rishonim - maybe Tosfos - writes that אין דרך בני ישראל לשרוף מתיהם: burning a Jew's lifeless body is not the Jewish way. Where is this source?










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A respected Rabbinic figure recently mentioned that one of the Rishonim - maybe Tosfos - writes that אין דרך בני ישראל לשרוף מתיהם: burning a Jew's lifeless body is not the Jewish way. Where is this source?







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  • academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation

    – Loewian
    yesterday











  • related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/76446/shiva-and-cremation

    – Loewian
    yesterday



















  • academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation

    – Loewian
    yesterday











  • related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/76446/shiva-and-cremation

    – Loewian
    yesterday

















academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation

– Loewian
yesterday





academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation

– Loewian
yesterday













related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/76446/shiva-and-cremation

– Loewian
yesterday





related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/76446/shiva-and-cremation

– Loewian
yesterday










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I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):




בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית







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  • Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly

    – NJM
    yesterday











  • @NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).

    – Oliver
    16 hours ago













  • I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.

    – msh210
    16 hours ago











  • @msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?

    – Oliver
    15 hours ago











  • Oops, good point, sorry.

    – msh210
    12 hours ago



















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I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):




בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית







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  • Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly

    – NJM
    yesterday











  • @NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).

    – Oliver
    16 hours ago













  • I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.

    – msh210
    16 hours ago











  • @msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?

    – Oliver
    15 hours ago











  • Oops, good point, sorry.

    – msh210
    12 hours ago
















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I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):




בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית







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  • Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly

    – NJM
    yesterday











  • @NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).

    – Oliver
    16 hours ago













  • I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.

    – msh210
    16 hours ago











  • @msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?

    – Oliver
    15 hours ago











  • Oops, good point, sorry.

    – msh210
    12 hours ago














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I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):




בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית







share|improve this answer













I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):




בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית








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  • Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly

    – NJM
    yesterday











  • @NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).

    – Oliver
    16 hours ago













  • I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.

    – msh210
    16 hours ago











  • @msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?

    – Oliver
    15 hours ago











  • Oops, good point, sorry.

    – msh210
    12 hours ago



















  • Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly

    – NJM
    yesterday











  • @NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).

    – Oliver
    16 hours ago













  • I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.

    – msh210
    16 hours ago











  • @msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?

    – Oliver
    15 hours ago











  • Oops, good point, sorry.

    – msh210
    12 hours ago

















Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly

– NJM
yesterday





Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly

– NJM
yesterday













@NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).

– Oliver
16 hours ago







@NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).

– Oliver
16 hours ago















I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.

– msh210
16 hours ago





I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.

– msh210
16 hours ago













@msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?

– Oliver
15 hours ago





@msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?

– Oliver
15 hours ago













Oops, good point, sorry.

– msh210
12 hours ago





Oops, good point, sorry.

– msh210
12 hours ago



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