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Source for Cremation Specifically Not Jewish
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A respected Rabbinic figure recently mentioned that one of the Rishonim - maybe Tosfos - writes that אין דרך בני ישראל לשרוף מתיהם: burning a Jew's lifeless body is not the Jewish way. Where is this source?
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A respected Rabbinic figure recently mentioned that one of the Rishonim - maybe Tosfos - writes that אין דרך בני ישראל לשרוף מתיהם: burning a Jew's lifeless body is not the Jewish way. Where is this source?
sources-mekorot death funeral-burial-levaya rishonim tosfot
academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation
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related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/76446/shiva-and-cremation
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A respected Rabbinic figure recently mentioned that one of the Rishonim - maybe Tosfos - writes that אין דרך בני ישראל לשרוף מתיהם: burning a Jew's lifeless body is not the Jewish way. Where is this source?
sources-mekorot death funeral-burial-levaya rishonim tosfot
A respected Rabbinic figure recently mentioned that one of the Rishonim - maybe Tosfos - writes that אין דרך בני ישראל לשרוף מתיהם: burning a Jew's lifeless body is not the Jewish way. Where is this source?
sources-mekorot death funeral-burial-levaya rishonim tosfot
sources-mekorot death funeral-burial-levaya rishonim tosfot
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academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation
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academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation
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related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/76446/shiva-and-cremation
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I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):
בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית
Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly
– NJM
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@NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).
– Oliver
16 hours ago
I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.
– msh210♦
16 hours ago
@msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?
– Oliver
15 hours ago
Oops, good point, sorry.
– msh210♦
12 hours ago
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I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):
בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית
Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly
– NJM
yesterday
@NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).
– Oliver
16 hours ago
I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.
– msh210♦
16 hours ago
@msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?
– Oliver
15 hours ago
Oops, good point, sorry.
– msh210♦
12 hours ago
add a comment |
I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):
בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית
Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly
– NJM
yesterday
@NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).
– Oliver
16 hours ago
I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.
– msh210♦
16 hours ago
@msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?
– Oliver
15 hours ago
Oops, good point, sorry.
– msh210♦
12 hours ago
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I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):
בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית
I’d suggest the quote, albeit not exact, is from Tosafot (Chulin 125b s.v. Yachol):
בהא דאמרינן בביצה (י.)... דהתם במת שלם דאין דרך לשורפו ולנתחו פחות מכזית
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Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly
– NJM
yesterday
@NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).
– Oliver
16 hours ago
I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.
– msh210♦
16 hours ago
@msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?
– Oliver
15 hours ago
Oops, good point, sorry.
– msh210♦
12 hours ago
add a comment |
Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly
– NJM
yesterday
@NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).
– Oliver
16 hours ago
I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.
– msh210♦
16 hours ago
@msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?
– Oliver
15 hours ago
Oops, good point, sorry.
– msh210♦
12 hours ago
Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly
– NJM
yesterday
Thank you, I saw the same source, but it didn't seem to be taking about klal Yisroel in particular - unless I didn't read it correctly
– NJM
yesterday
@NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).
– Oliver
16 hours ago
@NJM Hmm, actually didn’t cross my mind that Tos. was not speaking of Jews in particular since Rambam (here) is typically followed in deciding like Rashbi that the laws of purity when imparted by a tent, which is the context of Chulin and Betzah, aren’t applicable to a gentile (BM 114b).
– Oliver
16 hours ago
I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.
– msh210♦
16 hours ago
I didn't look up the תוספות but from your quotation it sounds like he's referring only to a whole cadaver, which is more limited than the question asked about.
– msh210♦
16 hours ago
@msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?
– Oliver
15 hours ago
@msh210 Isn’t that exactly what OP asked about, “a Jew’s lifeless body”?
– Oliver
15 hours ago
Oops, good point, sorry.
– msh210♦
12 hours ago
Oops, good point, sorry.
– msh210♦
12 hours ago
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academia.edu/14490754/A_Halachic_View_of_Cremation
– Loewian
yesterday
related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/76446/shiva-and-cremation
– Loewian
yesterday