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Why did John Williams use a march to symbolise Indiana Jones?


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John Williams is famous for using certain styles of composition to represent characters (e.g. a military march style in Superman to represent freedom/USA etc.), but why was Indiana represented by the Raider's March? He's a hero, but not in a military or fighting for a government.



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  • John Williams composed one melody and used it in 300 films. ick.

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  • Superman wasn't in the military or fighting for the government, so why aren't you asking about him, too?

    – David Richerby
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  • @DavidRicherby Because superman was fighting for a common, American good ("Truth, justice and the American way" - very patriotic).

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John Williams is famous for using certain styles of composition to represent characters (e.g. a military march style in Superman to represent freedom/USA etc.), but why was Indiana represented by the Raider's March? He's a hero, but not in a military or fighting for a government.



Raider's March:













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  • John Williams composed one melody and used it in 300 films. ick.

    – Carl Witthoft
    16 hours ago











  • Superman wasn't in the military or fighting for the government, so why aren't you asking about him, too?

    – David Richerby
    14 hours ago











  • @DavidRicherby Because superman was fighting for a common, American good ("Truth, justice and the American way" - very patriotic).

    – Woodman
    10 hours ago














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John Williams is famous for using certain styles of composition to represent characters (e.g. a military march style in Superman to represent freedom/USA etc.), but why was Indiana represented by the Raider's March? He's a hero, but not in a military or fighting for a government.



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John Williams is famous for using certain styles of composition to represent characters (e.g. a military march style in Superman to represent freedom/USA etc.), but why was Indiana represented by the Raider's March? He's a hero, but not in a military or fighting for a government.



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  • John Williams composed one melody and used it in 300 films. ick.

    – Carl Witthoft
    16 hours ago











  • Superman wasn't in the military or fighting for the government, so why aren't you asking about him, too?

    – David Richerby
    14 hours ago











  • @DavidRicherby Because superman was fighting for a common, American good ("Truth, justice and the American way" - very patriotic).

    – Woodman
    10 hours ago



















  • John Williams composed one melody and used it in 300 films. ick.

    – Carl Witthoft
    16 hours ago











  • Superman wasn't in the military or fighting for the government, so why aren't you asking about him, too?

    – David Richerby
    14 hours ago











  • @DavidRicherby Because superman was fighting for a common, American good ("Truth, justice and the American way" - very patriotic).

    – Woodman
    10 hours ago

















John Williams composed one melody and used it in 300 films. ick.

– Carl Witthoft
16 hours ago





John Williams composed one melody and used it in 300 films. ick.

– Carl Witthoft
16 hours ago













Superman wasn't in the military or fighting for the government, so why aren't you asking about him, too?

– David Richerby
14 hours ago





Superman wasn't in the military or fighting for the government, so why aren't you asking about him, too?

– David Richerby
14 hours ago













@DavidRicherby Because superman was fighting for a common, American good ("Truth, justice and the American way" - very patriotic).

– Woodman
10 hours ago





@DavidRicherby Because superman was fighting for a common, American good ("Truth, justice and the American way" - very patriotic).

– Woodman
10 hours ago










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Interesting question! Williams's choice certainly isn't as obvious as, say, the military march for Darth Vader. Although I can't find a definitive statement from Williams himself, I think there is a clear analytic way to make sense of his choice.



There is a branch of music analysis called "topic theory." In short, topic theory looks at conventional musical signs that signify some kind of emotion or background. A group of trumpets quickly articulating arpeggios, for instance, would be a "fanfare" topic that signifies royalty, the hunt, etc. Similarly, a "march" topic could signify the military, patriotism, or some type of quest towards something to be achieved or conquered.



With this in mind, I think we can see explanations for each of these three listed ideas:




  1. Indiana Jones did serve in World War I, so a military topic is very fitting.

  2. Similarly, a patriotic topic is also fitting. (I even see some web results that make the claim that he's a great American patriot.)

  3. And of course so many of his stories are about quests to find some item or defeat some entity, which of course matches the march topic very well.


In other words, I don't think a march is limited to just the military or currently fighting for a government. Once we acknowledge a broader view of what the march topic may signify, it becomes much more clear why Williams may have chosen to write the theme as a march.



For anyone interested in topic theory, you may want to check out The Oxford Handbook of Topic Theory.






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    Point number 3 in particular! There are lots of non-military marches (the physical walking kind, not the music), and any 2-beat melody can support the theme. After all, there are funeral marches too.

    – Carl Witthoft
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Interesting question! Williams's choice certainly isn't as obvious as, say, the military march for Darth Vader. Although I can't find a definitive statement from Williams himself, I think there is a clear analytic way to make sense of his choice.



There is a branch of music analysis called "topic theory." In short, topic theory looks at conventional musical signs that signify some kind of emotion or background. A group of trumpets quickly articulating arpeggios, for instance, would be a "fanfare" topic that signifies royalty, the hunt, etc. Similarly, a "march" topic could signify the military, patriotism, or some type of quest towards something to be achieved or conquered.



With this in mind, I think we can see explanations for each of these three listed ideas:




  1. Indiana Jones did serve in World War I, so a military topic is very fitting.

  2. Similarly, a patriotic topic is also fitting. (I even see some web results that make the claim that he's a great American patriot.)

  3. And of course so many of his stories are about quests to find some item or defeat some entity, which of course matches the march topic very well.


In other words, I don't think a march is limited to just the military or currently fighting for a government. Once we acknowledge a broader view of what the march topic may signify, it becomes much more clear why Williams may have chosen to write the theme as a march.



For anyone interested in topic theory, you may want to check out The Oxford Handbook of Topic Theory.






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    Point number 3 in particular! There are lots of non-military marches (the physical walking kind, not the music), and any 2-beat melody can support the theme. After all, there are funeral marches too.

    – Carl Witthoft
    16 hours ago
















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Interesting question! Williams's choice certainly isn't as obvious as, say, the military march for Darth Vader. Although I can't find a definitive statement from Williams himself, I think there is a clear analytic way to make sense of his choice.



There is a branch of music analysis called "topic theory." In short, topic theory looks at conventional musical signs that signify some kind of emotion or background. A group of trumpets quickly articulating arpeggios, for instance, would be a "fanfare" topic that signifies royalty, the hunt, etc. Similarly, a "march" topic could signify the military, patriotism, or some type of quest towards something to be achieved or conquered.



With this in mind, I think we can see explanations for each of these three listed ideas:




  1. Indiana Jones did serve in World War I, so a military topic is very fitting.

  2. Similarly, a patriotic topic is also fitting. (I even see some web results that make the claim that he's a great American patriot.)

  3. And of course so many of his stories are about quests to find some item or defeat some entity, which of course matches the march topic very well.


In other words, I don't think a march is limited to just the military or currently fighting for a government. Once we acknowledge a broader view of what the march topic may signify, it becomes much more clear why Williams may have chosen to write the theme as a march.



For anyone interested in topic theory, you may want to check out The Oxford Handbook of Topic Theory.






share|improve this answer



















  • 1





    Point number 3 in particular! There are lots of non-military marches (the physical walking kind, not the music), and any 2-beat melody can support the theme. After all, there are funeral marches too.

    – Carl Witthoft
    16 hours ago














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Interesting question! Williams's choice certainly isn't as obvious as, say, the military march for Darth Vader. Although I can't find a definitive statement from Williams himself, I think there is a clear analytic way to make sense of his choice.



There is a branch of music analysis called "topic theory." In short, topic theory looks at conventional musical signs that signify some kind of emotion or background. A group of trumpets quickly articulating arpeggios, for instance, would be a "fanfare" topic that signifies royalty, the hunt, etc. Similarly, a "march" topic could signify the military, patriotism, or some type of quest towards something to be achieved or conquered.



With this in mind, I think we can see explanations for each of these three listed ideas:




  1. Indiana Jones did serve in World War I, so a military topic is very fitting.

  2. Similarly, a patriotic topic is also fitting. (I even see some web results that make the claim that he's a great American patriot.)

  3. And of course so many of his stories are about quests to find some item or defeat some entity, which of course matches the march topic very well.


In other words, I don't think a march is limited to just the military or currently fighting for a government. Once we acknowledge a broader view of what the march topic may signify, it becomes much more clear why Williams may have chosen to write the theme as a march.



For anyone interested in topic theory, you may want to check out The Oxford Handbook of Topic Theory.






share|improve this answer













Interesting question! Williams's choice certainly isn't as obvious as, say, the military march for Darth Vader. Although I can't find a definitive statement from Williams himself, I think there is a clear analytic way to make sense of his choice.



There is a branch of music analysis called "topic theory." In short, topic theory looks at conventional musical signs that signify some kind of emotion or background. A group of trumpets quickly articulating arpeggios, for instance, would be a "fanfare" topic that signifies royalty, the hunt, etc. Similarly, a "march" topic could signify the military, patriotism, or some type of quest towards something to be achieved or conquered.



With this in mind, I think we can see explanations for each of these three listed ideas:




  1. Indiana Jones did serve in World War I, so a military topic is very fitting.

  2. Similarly, a patriotic topic is also fitting. (I even see some web results that make the claim that he's a great American patriot.)

  3. And of course so many of his stories are about quests to find some item or defeat some entity, which of course matches the march topic very well.


In other words, I don't think a march is limited to just the military or currently fighting for a government. Once we acknowledge a broader view of what the march topic may signify, it becomes much more clear why Williams may have chosen to write the theme as a march.



For anyone interested in topic theory, you may want to check out The Oxford Handbook of Topic Theory.







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    Point number 3 in particular! There are lots of non-military marches (the physical walking kind, not the music), and any 2-beat melody can support the theme. After all, there are funeral marches too.

    – Carl Witthoft
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    Point number 3 in particular! There are lots of non-military marches (the physical walking kind, not the music), and any 2-beat melody can support the theme. After all, there are funeral marches too.

    – Carl Witthoft
    16 hours ago








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Point number 3 in particular! There are lots of non-military marches (the physical walking kind, not the music), and any 2-beat melody can support the theme. After all, there are funeral marches too.

– Carl Witthoft
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Point number 3 in particular! There are lots of non-military marches (the physical walking kind, not the music), and any 2-beat melody can support the theme. After all, there are funeral marches too.

– Carl Witthoft
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