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I want to build a cart for carrying camping equipment and supplies as a potential alternative to a backpack. Pulling a cart with the backpack in it should be easier than carrying it on my back, at least for a flat and even surface. Whether the trails I will be traveling are flat and even enough I don't yet know. The cart would need to support a weight of 25 lbs. and be roughly 18" wide by 30" high. I'd attach a strap to it and wrap the strap around my waist. I would attach the pack to the cart with string or a bungee cord.



I was going to build the cart out of schedule 80 PVC pipe and then attach wheels to it, for example https://wheeleez.com/product/wz1-wak-38tt/ (these are bigger and heavier than I want, this is just for illustration). This might be better: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200660524_200660524. Bigger wheels will roll better and will surmount rocks more easily; the tradeoff is the extra weight.



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  • What would be an ideal PVC pipe diameter?

  • What would be an ideal wheel diameter and material?










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  • Unless you plan to only use this one or two times, in mild weather and in placid terrain, PVC is a poor choice. It has too much flex, a poor strength to weight ratio, and susceptibility to temperatures, UV, and fatigue failure. Use steel allows or aluminum alloys, the former is easier for novices to fab with. 20" wheels should suffice. If a ready made hiking cart is not to your taste, you might consider using or modifying a (jogging) baby stroller.

    – Brock Adams
    3 hours ago








  • 1





    Along the lines of @Brock Adams suggestion a bicycle trailer used for towing children are light weight and robust. They are also readily available on the used market as children quickly out grow them.

    – mikes
    3 hours ago











  • Thanks for the suggestions. I did not know that about PVC, thank you. I modified a bicycle trailer for hauling groceries, but it's not suitable for trails because it is too wide.

    – jsf80238
    1 hour ago


















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I want to build a cart for carrying camping equipment and supplies as a potential alternative to a backpack. Pulling a cart with the backpack in it should be easier than carrying it on my back, at least for a flat and even surface. Whether the trails I will be traveling are flat and even enough I don't yet know. The cart would need to support a weight of 25 lbs. and be roughly 18" wide by 30" high. I'd attach a strap to it and wrap the strap around my waist. I would attach the pack to the cart with string or a bungee cord.



I was going to build the cart out of schedule 80 PVC pipe and then attach wheels to it, for example https://wheeleez.com/product/wz1-wak-38tt/ (these are bigger and heavier than I want, this is just for illustration). This might be better: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200660524_200660524. Bigger wheels will roll better and will surmount rocks more easily; the tradeoff is the extra weight.



Two questions:




  • What would be an ideal PVC pipe diameter?

  • What would be an ideal wheel diameter and material?










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  • Unless you plan to only use this one or two times, in mild weather and in placid terrain, PVC is a poor choice. It has too much flex, a poor strength to weight ratio, and susceptibility to temperatures, UV, and fatigue failure. Use steel allows or aluminum alloys, the former is easier for novices to fab with. 20" wheels should suffice. If a ready made hiking cart is not to your taste, you might consider using or modifying a (jogging) baby stroller.

    – Brock Adams
    3 hours ago








  • 1





    Along the lines of @Brock Adams suggestion a bicycle trailer used for towing children are light weight and robust. They are also readily available on the used market as children quickly out grow them.

    – mikes
    3 hours ago











  • Thanks for the suggestions. I did not know that about PVC, thank you. I modified a bicycle trailer for hauling groceries, but it's not suitable for trails because it is too wide.

    – jsf80238
    1 hour ago














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I want to build a cart for carrying camping equipment and supplies as a potential alternative to a backpack. Pulling a cart with the backpack in it should be easier than carrying it on my back, at least for a flat and even surface. Whether the trails I will be traveling are flat and even enough I don't yet know. The cart would need to support a weight of 25 lbs. and be roughly 18" wide by 30" high. I'd attach a strap to it and wrap the strap around my waist. I would attach the pack to the cart with string or a bungee cord.



I was going to build the cart out of schedule 80 PVC pipe and then attach wheels to it, for example https://wheeleez.com/product/wz1-wak-38tt/ (these are bigger and heavier than I want, this is just for illustration). This might be better: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200660524_200660524. Bigger wheels will roll better and will surmount rocks more easily; the tradeoff is the extra weight.



Two questions:




  • What would be an ideal PVC pipe diameter?

  • What would be an ideal wheel diameter and material?










share|improve this question







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I want to build a cart for carrying camping equipment and supplies as a potential alternative to a backpack. Pulling a cart with the backpack in it should be easier than carrying it on my back, at least for a flat and even surface. Whether the trails I will be traveling are flat and even enough I don't yet know. The cart would need to support a weight of 25 lbs. and be roughly 18" wide by 30" high. I'd attach a strap to it and wrap the strap around my waist. I would attach the pack to the cart with string or a bungee cord.



I was going to build the cart out of schedule 80 PVC pipe and then attach wheels to it, for example https://wheeleez.com/product/wz1-wak-38tt/ (these are bigger and heavier than I want, this is just for illustration). This might be better: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200660524_200660524. Bigger wheels will roll better and will surmount rocks more easily; the tradeoff is the extra weight.



Two questions:




  • What would be an ideal PVC pipe diameter?

  • What would be an ideal wheel diameter and material?







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  • Unless you plan to only use this one or two times, in mild weather and in placid terrain, PVC is a poor choice. It has too much flex, a poor strength to weight ratio, and susceptibility to temperatures, UV, and fatigue failure. Use steel allows or aluminum alloys, the former is easier for novices to fab with. 20" wheels should suffice. If a ready made hiking cart is not to your taste, you might consider using or modifying a (jogging) baby stroller.

    – Brock Adams
    3 hours ago








  • 1





    Along the lines of @Brock Adams suggestion a bicycle trailer used for towing children are light weight and robust. They are also readily available on the used market as children quickly out grow them.

    – mikes
    3 hours ago











  • Thanks for the suggestions. I did not know that about PVC, thank you. I modified a bicycle trailer for hauling groceries, but it's not suitable for trails because it is too wide.

    – jsf80238
    1 hour ago



















  • Unless you plan to only use this one or two times, in mild weather and in placid terrain, PVC is a poor choice. It has too much flex, a poor strength to weight ratio, and susceptibility to temperatures, UV, and fatigue failure. Use steel allows or aluminum alloys, the former is easier for novices to fab with. 20" wheels should suffice. If a ready made hiking cart is not to your taste, you might consider using or modifying a (jogging) baby stroller.

    – Brock Adams
    3 hours ago








  • 1





    Along the lines of @Brock Adams suggestion a bicycle trailer used for towing children are light weight and robust. They are also readily available on the used market as children quickly out grow them.

    – mikes
    3 hours ago











  • Thanks for the suggestions. I did not know that about PVC, thank you. I modified a bicycle trailer for hauling groceries, but it's not suitable for trails because it is too wide.

    – jsf80238
    1 hour ago

















Unless you plan to only use this one or two times, in mild weather and in placid terrain, PVC is a poor choice. It has too much flex, a poor strength to weight ratio, and susceptibility to temperatures, UV, and fatigue failure. Use steel allows or aluminum alloys, the former is easier for novices to fab with. 20" wheels should suffice. If a ready made hiking cart is not to your taste, you might consider using or modifying a (jogging) baby stroller.

– Brock Adams
3 hours ago







Unless you plan to only use this one or two times, in mild weather and in placid terrain, PVC is a poor choice. It has too much flex, a poor strength to weight ratio, and susceptibility to temperatures, UV, and fatigue failure. Use steel allows or aluminum alloys, the former is easier for novices to fab with. 20" wheels should suffice. If a ready made hiking cart is not to your taste, you might consider using or modifying a (jogging) baby stroller.

– Brock Adams
3 hours ago






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Along the lines of @Brock Adams suggestion a bicycle trailer used for towing children are light weight and robust. They are also readily available on the used market as children quickly out grow them.

– mikes
3 hours ago





Along the lines of @Brock Adams suggestion a bicycle trailer used for towing children are light weight and robust. They are also readily available on the used market as children quickly out grow them.

– mikes
3 hours ago













Thanks for the suggestions. I did not know that about PVC, thank you. I modified a bicycle trailer for hauling groceries, but it's not suitable for trails because it is too wide.

– jsf80238
1 hour ago





Thanks for the suggestions. I did not know that about PVC, thank you. I modified a bicycle trailer for hauling groceries, but it's not suitable for trails because it is too wide.

– jsf80238
1 hour ago










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Sorry for the long post. I've sort of documented my train of thought.

Let me put the end at the beginning:

Bottom line




  • Aluminum or steel. Diameter depends on wall thickness. With good bracing .5 inch or .75 inch outer diameter will work for 25 pounds.

  • Closed cell solid rubber tires, caster in the front fixed in the rear, I'd go for at least 6 inches in diameter.


I'm a big fan of building stuff from PVC but I agree with Brock. PVC will not last.

Aluminum is lighter than steel but a little more expensive. It will lend itself to a bolt together construction.

Steel is easier to wield or braze but can also be bolted together.



It's best to see what's out there for sale. Looking around can give ideas for what to build and how much I should spend on my own build vs buying something.



I checked Amazon and found a few, here is one example. Not as a recommendation but as an example this one came up. It has 120 pound capacity, folds up, and weighs 26.5 pounds. It costs $110.00.
enter image description here



This example had a much smaller and wider wheel than I expected. The wheels get positive reviews.

The terrain you are on will make a huge difference and require larger wheels. Hard rubber tires will transfer every shock into the wagon. Tires with a little give would be better. It's hard to tell without a better description or seeing it in person but something like this might be good. It's a 6.25 inch wheel, and you'll want caster wheels on the front
enter image description here



Pneumatic tires would work but then you have to worry about flats.



Maybe something like this on the rear - it's a closed cell solid tire that's suppose to ride like a pneumatic tire.
enter image description here



The problem is that by the time you get four wheels you will have spent almost $100.00, that's pretty close to the cost of a factory built version.



Also, these wheels are heavy, the back wheels are 3 pounds each and the fronts are over 5 pounds each. The heavier your cart the more you have to push up a hill and hold back going down a hill.






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  • I'm thinking I would only want two wheels, at the back end. The front end would be attached to my waist via a strap. I don't think the wheels would need any give ... I'm not concerned with the "comfort" of my equipment.

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I'd look at a standard, two-wheel, LARGE (bicycle sized) wheel garden cart, or possibly a wheelbarrow form, again with a LARGE, bicycle, wheel.) Bicycle wheels are a common, well developed, strong, lightweight wheel with many options for tires and sizes.



The single-wheel advantage becomes blatantly obvious the first time you hit a side-hill and your multi-wheel cart decides to roll over sideways. A wheelbarrow with one wheel is only sensitive to side-hill when you set it down on its two legs. I would NOT suggest using a standard wheelbarrow as seen today.



Basic wooden wheelbarrow frame



This is an illustration of a wood-framed (and probably wheeled, but swap that for a bicycle wheel) "bare-bones" form from this translated article (I was just looking for a good, basic, not too modern wheelbarrow illustration. I haven't read the article in any detail):



https://spot.colorado.edu/~richtea/prints.html



How much load you have to lift at the handles varies as you move the load more over the wheel, while how stable it is varies with how low you can get it. If you can arrange your "pack" as two "panniers" you can get it right over the wheel while keeping it low, by having it to the sides of the wheel. You still have to push or pull the weight, but you don't have to lift it. Still, on many of my local trails, you'd likely come to regret having to get it over rocks & trees (even with a large wheel) but your local trails may be more developed or involve fewer stair-stepped steep sections. It could also skid sideways on wet rock.



You could pick up a pre-owned bicycle for not much or free and adapt from there. You might want to retain the brake for downhills.






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  • My first thought is that such a design would tip over too easily, but perhaps not. Perhaps attaching each pole to each hip would be sufficient. (nods head)

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  • Given your load is proposed to be ~25 lbs, I doubt it would be a major issue. I work with some folks who like "two-wheel" wheelbarrows, and those are FAR more prone to tipping over on any side slope, which is why I prefer the single-wheel version. Where flat enough, the garden-cart setup is good as it distributes the load over the axle, but where not flat enough, that's either a rollover or having to take tiny loads to not roll over.

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Sorry for the long post. I've sort of documented my train of thought.

Let me put the end at the beginning:

Bottom line




  • Aluminum or steel. Diameter depends on wall thickness. With good bracing .5 inch or .75 inch outer diameter will work for 25 pounds.

  • Closed cell solid rubber tires, caster in the front fixed in the rear, I'd go for at least 6 inches in diameter.


I'm a big fan of building stuff from PVC but I agree with Brock. PVC will not last.

Aluminum is lighter than steel but a little more expensive. It will lend itself to a bolt together construction.

Steel is easier to wield or braze but can also be bolted together.



It's best to see what's out there for sale. Looking around can give ideas for what to build and how much I should spend on my own build vs buying something.



I checked Amazon and found a few, here is one example. Not as a recommendation but as an example this one came up. It has 120 pound capacity, folds up, and weighs 26.5 pounds. It costs $110.00.
enter image description here



This example had a much smaller and wider wheel than I expected. The wheels get positive reviews.

The terrain you are on will make a huge difference and require larger wheels. Hard rubber tires will transfer every shock into the wagon. Tires with a little give would be better. It's hard to tell without a better description or seeing it in person but something like this might be good. It's a 6.25 inch wheel, and you'll want caster wheels on the front
enter image description here



Pneumatic tires would work but then you have to worry about flats.



Maybe something like this on the rear - it's a closed cell solid tire that's suppose to ride like a pneumatic tire.
enter image description here



The problem is that by the time you get four wheels you will have spent almost $100.00, that's pretty close to the cost of a factory built version.



Also, these wheels are heavy, the back wheels are 3 pounds each and the fronts are over 5 pounds each. The heavier your cart the more you have to push up a hill and hold back going down a hill.






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  • I'm thinking I would only want two wheels, at the back end. The front end would be attached to my waist via a strap. I don't think the wheels would need any give ... I'm not concerned with the "comfort" of my equipment.

    – jsf80238
    44 mins ago
















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Sorry for the long post. I've sort of documented my train of thought.

Let me put the end at the beginning:

Bottom line




  • Aluminum or steel. Diameter depends on wall thickness. With good bracing .5 inch or .75 inch outer diameter will work for 25 pounds.

  • Closed cell solid rubber tires, caster in the front fixed in the rear, I'd go for at least 6 inches in diameter.


I'm a big fan of building stuff from PVC but I agree with Brock. PVC will not last.

Aluminum is lighter than steel but a little more expensive. It will lend itself to a bolt together construction.

Steel is easier to wield or braze but can also be bolted together.



It's best to see what's out there for sale. Looking around can give ideas for what to build and how much I should spend on my own build vs buying something.



I checked Amazon and found a few, here is one example. Not as a recommendation but as an example this one came up. It has 120 pound capacity, folds up, and weighs 26.5 pounds. It costs $110.00.
enter image description here



This example had a much smaller and wider wheel than I expected. The wheels get positive reviews.

The terrain you are on will make a huge difference and require larger wheels. Hard rubber tires will transfer every shock into the wagon. Tires with a little give would be better. It's hard to tell without a better description or seeing it in person but something like this might be good. It's a 6.25 inch wheel, and you'll want caster wheels on the front
enter image description here



Pneumatic tires would work but then you have to worry about flats.



Maybe something like this on the rear - it's a closed cell solid tire that's suppose to ride like a pneumatic tire.
enter image description here



The problem is that by the time you get four wheels you will have spent almost $100.00, that's pretty close to the cost of a factory built version.



Also, these wheels are heavy, the back wheels are 3 pounds each and the fronts are over 5 pounds each. The heavier your cart the more you have to push up a hill and hold back going down a hill.






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  • I'm thinking I would only want two wheels, at the back end. The front end would be attached to my waist via a strap. I don't think the wheels would need any give ... I'm not concerned with the "comfort" of my equipment.

    – jsf80238
    44 mins ago














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Sorry for the long post. I've sort of documented my train of thought.

Let me put the end at the beginning:

Bottom line




  • Aluminum or steel. Diameter depends on wall thickness. With good bracing .5 inch or .75 inch outer diameter will work for 25 pounds.

  • Closed cell solid rubber tires, caster in the front fixed in the rear, I'd go for at least 6 inches in diameter.


I'm a big fan of building stuff from PVC but I agree with Brock. PVC will not last.

Aluminum is lighter than steel but a little more expensive. It will lend itself to a bolt together construction.

Steel is easier to wield or braze but can also be bolted together.



It's best to see what's out there for sale. Looking around can give ideas for what to build and how much I should spend on my own build vs buying something.



I checked Amazon and found a few, here is one example. Not as a recommendation but as an example this one came up. It has 120 pound capacity, folds up, and weighs 26.5 pounds. It costs $110.00.
enter image description here



This example had a much smaller and wider wheel than I expected. The wheels get positive reviews.

The terrain you are on will make a huge difference and require larger wheels. Hard rubber tires will transfer every shock into the wagon. Tires with a little give would be better. It's hard to tell without a better description or seeing it in person but something like this might be good. It's a 6.25 inch wheel, and you'll want caster wheels on the front
enter image description here



Pneumatic tires would work but then you have to worry about flats.



Maybe something like this on the rear - it's a closed cell solid tire that's suppose to ride like a pneumatic tire.
enter image description here



The problem is that by the time you get four wheels you will have spent almost $100.00, that's pretty close to the cost of a factory built version.



Also, these wheels are heavy, the back wheels are 3 pounds each and the fronts are over 5 pounds each. The heavier your cart the more you have to push up a hill and hold back going down a hill.






share|improve this answer













Sorry for the long post. I've sort of documented my train of thought.

Let me put the end at the beginning:

Bottom line




  • Aluminum or steel. Diameter depends on wall thickness. With good bracing .5 inch or .75 inch outer diameter will work for 25 pounds.

  • Closed cell solid rubber tires, caster in the front fixed in the rear, I'd go for at least 6 inches in diameter.


I'm a big fan of building stuff from PVC but I agree with Brock. PVC will not last.

Aluminum is lighter than steel but a little more expensive. It will lend itself to a bolt together construction.

Steel is easier to wield or braze but can also be bolted together.



It's best to see what's out there for sale. Looking around can give ideas for what to build and how much I should spend on my own build vs buying something.



I checked Amazon and found a few, here is one example. Not as a recommendation but as an example this one came up. It has 120 pound capacity, folds up, and weighs 26.5 pounds. It costs $110.00.
enter image description here



This example had a much smaller and wider wheel than I expected. The wheels get positive reviews.

The terrain you are on will make a huge difference and require larger wheels. Hard rubber tires will transfer every shock into the wagon. Tires with a little give would be better. It's hard to tell without a better description or seeing it in person but something like this might be good. It's a 6.25 inch wheel, and you'll want caster wheels on the front
enter image description here



Pneumatic tires would work but then you have to worry about flats.



Maybe something like this on the rear - it's a closed cell solid tire that's suppose to ride like a pneumatic tire.
enter image description here



The problem is that by the time you get four wheels you will have spent almost $100.00, that's pretty close to the cost of a factory built version.



Also, these wheels are heavy, the back wheels are 3 pounds each and the fronts are over 5 pounds each. The heavier your cart the more you have to push up a hill and hold back going down a hill.







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  • I'm thinking I would only want two wheels, at the back end. The front end would be attached to my waist via a strap. I don't think the wheels would need any give ... I'm not concerned with the "comfort" of my equipment.

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    44 mins ago



















  • I'm thinking I would only want two wheels, at the back end. The front end would be attached to my waist via a strap. I don't think the wheels would need any give ... I'm not concerned with the "comfort" of my equipment.

    – jsf80238
    44 mins ago

















I'm thinking I would only want two wheels, at the back end. The front end would be attached to my waist via a strap. I don't think the wheels would need any give ... I'm not concerned with the "comfort" of my equipment.

– jsf80238
44 mins ago





I'm thinking I would only want two wheels, at the back end. The front end would be attached to my waist via a strap. I don't think the wheels would need any give ... I'm not concerned with the "comfort" of my equipment.

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I'd look at a standard, two-wheel, LARGE (bicycle sized) wheel garden cart, or possibly a wheelbarrow form, again with a LARGE, bicycle, wheel.) Bicycle wheels are a common, well developed, strong, lightweight wheel with many options for tires and sizes.



The single-wheel advantage becomes blatantly obvious the first time you hit a side-hill and your multi-wheel cart decides to roll over sideways. A wheelbarrow with one wheel is only sensitive to side-hill when you set it down on its two legs. I would NOT suggest using a standard wheelbarrow as seen today.



Basic wooden wheelbarrow frame



This is an illustration of a wood-framed (and probably wheeled, but swap that for a bicycle wheel) "bare-bones" form from this translated article (I was just looking for a good, basic, not too modern wheelbarrow illustration. I haven't read the article in any detail):



https://spot.colorado.edu/~richtea/prints.html



How much load you have to lift at the handles varies as you move the load more over the wheel, while how stable it is varies with how low you can get it. If you can arrange your "pack" as two "panniers" you can get it right over the wheel while keeping it low, by having it to the sides of the wheel. You still have to push or pull the weight, but you don't have to lift it. Still, on many of my local trails, you'd likely come to regret having to get it over rocks & trees (even with a large wheel) but your local trails may be more developed or involve fewer stair-stepped steep sections. It could also skid sideways on wet rock.



You could pick up a pre-owned bicycle for not much or free and adapt from there. You might want to retain the brake for downhills.






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  • My first thought is that such a design would tip over too easily, but perhaps not. Perhaps attaching each pole to each hip would be sufficient. (nods head)

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  • Given your load is proposed to be ~25 lbs, I doubt it would be a major issue. I work with some folks who like "two-wheel" wheelbarrows, and those are FAR more prone to tipping over on any side slope, which is why I prefer the single-wheel version. Where flat enough, the garden-cart setup is good as it distributes the load over the axle, but where not flat enough, that's either a rollover or having to take tiny loads to not roll over.

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I'd look at a standard, two-wheel, LARGE (bicycle sized) wheel garden cart, or possibly a wheelbarrow form, again with a LARGE, bicycle, wheel.) Bicycle wheels are a common, well developed, strong, lightweight wheel with many options for tires and sizes.



The single-wheel advantage becomes blatantly obvious the first time you hit a side-hill and your multi-wheel cart decides to roll over sideways. A wheelbarrow with one wheel is only sensitive to side-hill when you set it down on its two legs. I would NOT suggest using a standard wheelbarrow as seen today.



Basic wooden wheelbarrow frame



This is an illustration of a wood-framed (and probably wheeled, but swap that for a bicycle wheel) "bare-bones" form from this translated article (I was just looking for a good, basic, not too modern wheelbarrow illustration. I haven't read the article in any detail):



https://spot.colorado.edu/~richtea/prints.html



How much load you have to lift at the handles varies as you move the load more over the wheel, while how stable it is varies with how low you can get it. If you can arrange your "pack" as two "panniers" you can get it right over the wheel while keeping it low, by having it to the sides of the wheel. You still have to push or pull the weight, but you don't have to lift it. Still, on many of my local trails, you'd likely come to regret having to get it over rocks & trees (even with a large wheel) but your local trails may be more developed or involve fewer stair-stepped steep sections. It could also skid sideways on wet rock.



You could pick up a pre-owned bicycle for not much or free and adapt from there. You might want to retain the brake for downhills.






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  • My first thought is that such a design would tip over too easily, but perhaps not. Perhaps attaching each pole to each hip would be sufficient. (nods head)

    – jsf80238
    18 mins ago











  • Given your load is proposed to be ~25 lbs, I doubt it would be a major issue. I work with some folks who like "two-wheel" wheelbarrows, and those are FAR more prone to tipping over on any side slope, which is why I prefer the single-wheel version. Where flat enough, the garden-cart setup is good as it distributes the load over the axle, but where not flat enough, that's either a rollover or having to take tiny loads to not roll over.

    – Ecnerwal
    8 mins ago














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I'd look at a standard, two-wheel, LARGE (bicycle sized) wheel garden cart, or possibly a wheelbarrow form, again with a LARGE, bicycle, wheel.) Bicycle wheels are a common, well developed, strong, lightweight wheel with many options for tires and sizes.



The single-wheel advantage becomes blatantly obvious the first time you hit a side-hill and your multi-wheel cart decides to roll over sideways. A wheelbarrow with one wheel is only sensitive to side-hill when you set it down on its two legs. I would NOT suggest using a standard wheelbarrow as seen today.



Basic wooden wheelbarrow frame



This is an illustration of a wood-framed (and probably wheeled, but swap that for a bicycle wheel) "bare-bones" form from this translated article (I was just looking for a good, basic, not too modern wheelbarrow illustration. I haven't read the article in any detail):



https://spot.colorado.edu/~richtea/prints.html



How much load you have to lift at the handles varies as you move the load more over the wheel, while how stable it is varies with how low you can get it. If you can arrange your "pack" as two "panniers" you can get it right over the wheel while keeping it low, by having it to the sides of the wheel. You still have to push or pull the weight, but you don't have to lift it. Still, on many of my local trails, you'd likely come to regret having to get it over rocks & trees (even with a large wheel) but your local trails may be more developed or involve fewer stair-stepped steep sections. It could also skid sideways on wet rock.



You could pick up a pre-owned bicycle for not much or free and adapt from there. You might want to retain the brake for downhills.






share|improve this answer













I'd look at a standard, two-wheel, LARGE (bicycle sized) wheel garden cart, or possibly a wheelbarrow form, again with a LARGE, bicycle, wheel.) Bicycle wheels are a common, well developed, strong, lightweight wheel with many options for tires and sizes.



The single-wheel advantage becomes blatantly obvious the first time you hit a side-hill and your multi-wheel cart decides to roll over sideways. A wheelbarrow with one wheel is only sensitive to side-hill when you set it down on its two legs. I would NOT suggest using a standard wheelbarrow as seen today.



Basic wooden wheelbarrow frame



This is an illustration of a wood-framed (and probably wheeled, but swap that for a bicycle wheel) "bare-bones" form from this translated article (I was just looking for a good, basic, not too modern wheelbarrow illustration. I haven't read the article in any detail):



https://spot.colorado.edu/~richtea/prints.html



How much load you have to lift at the handles varies as you move the load more over the wheel, while how stable it is varies with how low you can get it. If you can arrange your "pack" as two "panniers" you can get it right over the wheel while keeping it low, by having it to the sides of the wheel. You still have to push or pull the weight, but you don't have to lift it. Still, on many of my local trails, you'd likely come to regret having to get it over rocks & trees (even with a large wheel) but your local trails may be more developed or involve fewer stair-stepped steep sections. It could also skid sideways on wet rock.



You could pick up a pre-owned bicycle for not much or free and adapt from there. You might want to retain the brake for downhills.







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  • My first thought is that such a design would tip over too easily, but perhaps not. Perhaps attaching each pole to each hip would be sufficient. (nods head)

    – jsf80238
    18 mins ago











  • Given your load is proposed to be ~25 lbs, I doubt it would be a major issue. I work with some folks who like "two-wheel" wheelbarrows, and those are FAR more prone to tipping over on any side slope, which is why I prefer the single-wheel version. Where flat enough, the garden-cart setup is good as it distributes the load over the axle, but where not flat enough, that's either a rollover or having to take tiny loads to not roll over.

    – Ecnerwal
    8 mins ago



















  • My first thought is that such a design would tip over too easily, but perhaps not. Perhaps attaching each pole to each hip would be sufficient. (nods head)

    – jsf80238
    18 mins ago











  • Given your load is proposed to be ~25 lbs, I doubt it would be a major issue. I work with some folks who like "two-wheel" wheelbarrows, and those are FAR more prone to tipping over on any side slope, which is why I prefer the single-wheel version. Where flat enough, the garden-cart setup is good as it distributes the load over the axle, but where not flat enough, that's either a rollover or having to take tiny loads to not roll over.

    – Ecnerwal
    8 mins ago

















My first thought is that such a design would tip over too easily, but perhaps not. Perhaps attaching each pole to each hip would be sufficient. (nods head)

– jsf80238
18 mins ago





My first thought is that such a design would tip over too easily, but perhaps not. Perhaps attaching each pole to each hip would be sufficient. (nods head)

– jsf80238
18 mins ago













Given your load is proposed to be ~25 lbs, I doubt it would be a major issue. I work with some folks who like "two-wheel" wheelbarrows, and those are FAR more prone to tipping over on any side slope, which is why I prefer the single-wheel version. Where flat enough, the garden-cart setup is good as it distributes the load over the axle, but where not flat enough, that's either a rollover or having to take tiny loads to not roll over.

– Ecnerwal
8 mins ago





Given your load is proposed to be ~25 lbs, I doubt it would be a major issue. I work with some folks who like "two-wheel" wheelbarrows, and those are FAR more prone to tipping over on any side slope, which is why I prefer the single-wheel version. Where flat enough, the garden-cart setup is good as it distributes the load over the axle, but where not flat enough, that's either a rollover or having to take tiny loads to not roll over.

– Ecnerwal
8 mins ago










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