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I work as a software dev at a small marketing company in the Netherlands. I have been working here for 5 years and really enjoy my job. We are going to hire a new software dev, an old intern that has been working here next to the school for the last 2 years. I will manage his projects and review his work.
This intern also is outside of work friend of mine. When we were at a party together he was excited about the full-time job offer. And while we talked about it he mentioned what his pay was going to be. Which is exactly the same as mine.
This was some weeks ago. But it is bothering me a bit. Not that I want more salary per se. But that the interns 2 years of part-time experience are apparently worth the same as my 5 years of full-time experience.
While my manager did mention he put in a high offer for the intern to stay, because he does do a very good job, he did not call an actual amount. So I don't think I should know that the salary is the same.
Is there any way I could take this up with my manager? Can I mention anything about the interns pay?
Another issue is that about 4 months ago I got a significant raise (about 20%). But only after showing certain skills and achieving certain goals. But the new colleague is offered the same amount directly. So that makes me feel underappreciated for my achievements. Because the "reward" so to say is given freely to new people.
salary ethics raise
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I work as a software dev at a small marketing company in the Netherlands. I have been working here for 5 years and really enjoy my job. We are going to hire a new software dev, an old intern that has been working here next to the school for the last 2 years. I will manage his projects and review his work.
This intern also is outside of work friend of mine. When we were at a party together he was excited about the full-time job offer. And while we talked about it he mentioned what his pay was going to be. Which is exactly the same as mine.
This was some weeks ago. But it is bothering me a bit. Not that I want more salary per se. But that the interns 2 years of part-time experience are apparently worth the same as my 5 years of full-time experience.
While my manager did mention he put in a high offer for the intern to stay, because he does do a very good job, he did not call an actual amount. So I don't think I should know that the salary is the same.
Is there any way I could take this up with my manager? Can I mention anything about the interns pay?
Another issue is that about 4 months ago I got a significant raise (about 20%). But only after showing certain skills and achieving certain goals. But the new colleague is offered the same amount directly. So that makes me feel underappreciated for my achievements. Because the "reward" so to say is given freely to new people.
salary ethics raise
edited 59 mins ago
Koray Tugay
182110
asked 6 hours ago
Patrick NijhuisPatrick Nijhuis
7116
2
Possible duplicate of How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid?
– gnat
6 hours ago
@gnat the question you linked is sort of similar. But there is now answer on how to handle the fact that I know the interns pay.
– Patrick Nijhuis
6 hours ago
I would have answered, but given that my last answer on the same premise is not liked by the community, I'd refrain. :)
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
2
Just saying: It’s not an intern getting a good job offer, it is a previous intern. Good companies take an internship as a looong job interview. It looks like that person did very well in their job interview. Please be respectful and don’t talk about your new colleague as “the intern”. He isn’t.
– gnasher729
5 hours ago
1
@gnasher729 I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. Just having a hard time to make clear who I'm talking about without giving names.
– Patrick Nijhuis
5 hours ago
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I work as a software dev at a small marketing company in the Netherlands. I have been working here for 5 years and really enjoy my job. We are going to hire a new software dev, an old intern that has been working here next to the school for the last 2 years. I will manage his projects and review his work.
This intern also is outside of work friend of mine. When we were at a party together he was excited about the full-time job offer. And while we talked about it he mentioned what his pay was going to be. Which is exactly the same as mine.
This was some weeks ago. But it is bothering me a bit. Not that I want more salary per se. But that the interns 2 years of part-time experience are apparently worth the same as my 5 years of full-time experience.
While my manager did mention he put in a high offer for the intern to stay, because he does do a very good job, he did not call an actual amount. So I don't think I should know that the salary is the same.
Is there any way I could take this up with my manager? Can I mention anything about the interns pay?
Another issue is that about 4 months ago I got a significant raise (about 20%). But only after showing certain skills and achieving certain goals. But the new colleague is offered the same amount directly. So that makes me feel underappreciated for my achievements. Because the "reward" so to say is given freely to new people.
salary ethics raise
edited 59 mins ago
Koray Tugay
182110
asked 6 hours ago
Patrick NijhuisPatrick Nijhuis
7116
I work as a software dev at a small marketing company in the Netherlands. I have been working here for 5 years and really enjoy my job. We are going to hire a new software dev, an old intern that has been working here next to the school for the last 2 years. I will manage his projects and review his work.
This intern also is outside of work friend of mine. When we were at a party together he was excited about the full-time job offer. And while we talked about it he mentioned what his pay was going to be. Which is exactly the same as mine.
This was some weeks ago. But it is bothering me a bit. Not that I want more salary per se. But that the interns 2 years of part-time experience are apparently worth the same as my 5 years of full-time experience.
While my manager did mention he put in a high offer for the intern to stay, because he does do a very good job, he did not call an actual amount. So I don't think I should know that the salary is the same.
Is there any way I could take this up with my manager? Can I mention anything about the interns pay?
Another issue is that about 4 months ago I got a significant raise (about 20%). But only after showing certain skills and achieving certain goals. But the new colleague is offered the same amount directly. So that makes me feel underappreciated for my achievements. Because the "reward" so to say is given freely to new people.
salary ethics raise
salary ethics raise
edited 59 mins ago
Koray Tugay
182110
asked 6 hours ago
Patrick NijhuisPatrick Nijhuis
7116
edited 59 mins ago
Koray Tugay
182110
asked 6 hours ago
Patrick NijhuisPatrick Nijhuis
7116
edited 59 mins ago
Koray Tugay
182110
edited 59 mins ago
Koray Tugay
182110
edited 59 mins ago
Koray Tugay
182110
182110
asked 6 hours ago
Patrick NijhuisPatrick Nijhuis
7116
asked 6 hours ago
Patrick NijhuisPatrick Nijhuis
7116
asked 6 hours ago
Patrick NijhuisPatrick Nijhuis
7116
7116
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Possible duplicate of How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid?
– gnat
6 hours ago
@gnat the question you linked is sort of similar. But there is now answer on how to handle the fact that I know the interns pay.
– Patrick Nijhuis
6 hours ago
I would have answered, but given that my last answer on the same premise is not liked by the community, I'd refrain. :)
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
2
Just saying: It’s not an intern getting a good job offer, it is a previous intern. Good companies take an internship as a looong job interview. It looks like that person did very well in their job interview. Please be respectful and don’t talk about your new colleague as “the intern”. He isn’t.
– gnasher729
5 hours ago
1
@gnasher729 I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. Just having a hard time to make clear who I'm talking about without giving names.
– Patrick Nijhuis
5 hours ago
|
show 8 more comments
2
Possible duplicate of How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid?
– gnat
6 hours ago
@gnat the question you linked is sort of similar. But there is now answer on how to handle the fact that I know the interns pay.
– Patrick Nijhuis
6 hours ago
I would have answered, but given that my last answer on the same premise is not liked by the community, I'd refrain. :)
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
2
Just saying: It’s not an intern getting a good job offer, it is a previous intern. Good companies take an internship as a looong job interview. It looks like that person did very well in their job interview. Please be respectful and don’t talk about your new colleague as “the intern”. He isn’t.
– gnasher729
5 hours ago
1
@gnasher729 I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. Just having a hard time to make clear who I'm talking about without giving names.
– Patrick Nijhuis
5 hours ago
2
2
Possible duplicate of How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid?
– gnat
6 hours ago
Possible duplicate of How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid?
– gnat
6 hours ago
@gnat the question you linked is sort of similar. But there is now answer on how to handle the fact that I know the interns pay.
– Patrick Nijhuis
6 hours ago
@gnat the question you linked is sort of similar. But there is now answer on how to handle the fact that I know the interns pay.
– Patrick Nijhuis
6 hours ago
I would have answered, but given that my last answer on the same premise is not liked by the community, I'd refrain. :)
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
I would have answered, but given that my last answer on the same premise is not liked by the community, I'd refrain. :)
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
2
2
Just saying: It’s not an intern getting a good job offer, it is a previous intern. Good companies take an internship as a looong job interview. It looks like that person did very well in their job interview. Please be respectful and don’t talk about your new colleague as “the intern”. He isn’t.
– gnasher729
5 hours ago
Just saying: It’s not an intern getting a good job offer, it is a previous intern. Good companies take an internship as a looong job interview. It looks like that person did very well in their job interview. Please be respectful and don’t talk about your new colleague as “the intern”. He isn’t.
– gnasher729
5 hours ago
1
1
@gnasher729 I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. Just having a hard time to make clear who I'm talking about without giving names.
– Patrick Nijhuis
5 hours ago
@gnasher729 I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. Just having a hard time to make clear who I'm talking about without giving names.
– Patrick Nijhuis
5 hours ago
|
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Since you say you don't want more salary yourself I'll start by addressing the question at the end of your post.
Can I mention anything about the interns pay?
Treat your knowledge of your colleague's salary the same way you would treat any other confidential knowledge: don't disclose it and don't discuss that you know it. It's not your information to share.
But it is bothering me a bit. Not that I want more salary per se. But that the interns 2 years of part time experience are apparently worth the same as my 5 years of full time experience.
It sounds like you feel that your five years of experience should be worth more than your new colleague's two years (which in my opinion is fair enough).
I'd suggest you challenge your thinking around this: instead of thinking they should earn less because you're satisfied with what you earn, start thinking that you deserve more: you're worth more than you were 5 years ago. You can manage projects and review other people's work now. There are other questions on the site about how to approach a situation where you feel underpaid.
answered 5 hours ago
Player OnePlayer One
1,8061611
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Please note that salary is personal and not confidential information. I could share my salary with whoever I want and it's illegal for the company to punish me for doing so.
– Adrian Sicaru
1 hour ago
1
@AdrianSicaru it's personal information for the OP's colleague, which has been told to the OP in confidence.
– Player One
1 hour ago
3
This is precisely correct. OP, you must - must - drastically increase your salary in the immediate term.
– Fattie
1 hour ago
2
The thing with asking for a raise is that I just received a significant (20%) raise 4 months ago. Which felt like a lot of appreciation. But a new employee gets it when they start. Effectively canceling out the feeling of appreciation.
– Patrick Nijhuis
46 mins ago
3
@PatrickNijhuis that sounds really frustrating. Have you investigated the salaries for someone with your level of experience in the area you live?
– Player One
38 mins ago
|
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Salary levels for new hires increase with time, while your existing salary does not, until you get a raise - but that is completely unrelated to the intern's salary offer. If you received an offer of 3000 five years ago, you might receive 3500 with the same CV and experience today.
It doesn't make sense, but that's how it is in reality. Which is why many people change jobs fairly regularly nowadays. It is purely to keep your own salary at market level. Even with regular average raises, you would likely fall behind market levels.
answered 2 hours ago
Juha UntinenJuha Untinen
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Which is why it pays to regularly "test the market", polish up your cv and talk to a recruiter. Every 6-12 months. If nothing else to ensure you're getting what the market pays. If you're far below... get another job offer. Then at least you have a second offer or a bargaining chip to get another raise at present employer. Good luck OP!
– vikingsteve
1 hour ago
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This is normal. New hires wouldn't work if it wasn't. You're not paid based on experience. You're paid based on how much you'll stay at work for. If you want to earn more money, you'll have to job hop. That's pretty standard too.
Should you mention the interns salary? Yes. 100% bring it up. Glass door exists so it's not like you don't know how much people in your company are being paid. If your boss, or whoever is in charge of your salary, thinks that you won't leave or, if they think they can easily replace you, or if there isn't money they won't give you a raise. That's how salary works.
Kinda a rip off if you ask me.
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Since you say you don't want more salary yourself I'll start by addressing the question at the end of your post.
Can I mention anything about the interns pay?
Treat your knowledge of your colleague's salary the same way you would treat any other confidential knowledge: don't disclose it and don't discuss that you know it. It's not your information to share.
But it is bothering me a bit. Not that I want more salary per se. But that the interns 2 years of part time experience are apparently worth the same as my 5 years of full time experience.
It sounds like you feel that your five years of experience should be worth more than your new colleague's two years (which in my opinion is fair enough).
I'd suggest you challenge your thinking around this: instead of thinking they should earn less because you're satisfied with what you earn, start thinking that you deserve more: you're worth more than you were 5 years ago. You can manage projects and review other people's work now. There are other questions on the site about how to approach a situation where you feel underpaid.
answered 5 hours ago
Player OnePlayer One
1,8061611
4
Please note that salary is personal and not confidential information. I could share my salary with whoever I want and it's illegal for the company to punish me for doing so.
– Adrian Sicaru
1 hour ago
1
@AdrianSicaru it's personal information for the OP's colleague, which has been told to the OP in confidence.
– Player One
1 hour ago
3
This is precisely correct. OP, you must - must - drastically increase your salary in the immediate term.
– Fattie
1 hour ago
2
The thing with asking for a raise is that I just received a significant (20%) raise 4 months ago. Which felt like a lot of appreciation. But a new employee gets it when they start. Effectively canceling out the feeling of appreciation.
– Patrick Nijhuis
46 mins ago
3
@PatrickNijhuis that sounds really frustrating. Have you investigated the salaries for someone with your level of experience in the area you live?
– Player One
38 mins ago
|
show 4 more comments
Since you say you don't want more salary yourself I'll start by addressing the question at the end of your post.
Can I mention anything about the interns pay?
Treat your knowledge of your colleague's salary the same way you would treat any other confidential knowledge: don't disclose it and don't discuss that you know it. It's not your information to share.
But it is bothering me a bit. Not that I want more salary per se. But that the interns 2 years of part time experience are apparently worth the same as my 5 years of full time experience.
It sounds like you feel that your five years of experience should be worth more than your new colleague's two years (which in my opinion is fair enough).
I'd suggest you challenge your thinking around this: instead of thinking they should earn less because you're satisfied with what you earn, start thinking that you deserve more: you're worth more than you were 5 years ago. You can manage projects and review other people's work now. There are other questions on the site about how to approach a situation where you feel underpaid.
answered 5 hours ago
Player OnePlayer One
1,8061611
4
Please note that salary is personal and not confidential information. I could share my salary with whoever I want and it's illegal for the company to punish me for doing so.
– Adrian Sicaru
1 hour ago
1
@AdrianSicaru it's personal information for the OP's colleague, which has been told to the OP in confidence.
– Player One
1 hour ago
3
This is precisely correct. OP, you must - must - drastically increase your salary in the immediate term.
– Fattie
1 hour ago
2
The thing with asking for a raise is that I just received a significant (20%) raise 4 months ago. Which felt like a lot of appreciation. But a new employee gets it when they start. Effectively canceling out the feeling of appreciation.
– Patrick Nijhuis
46 mins ago
3
@PatrickNijhuis that sounds really frustrating. Have you investigated the salaries for someone with your level of experience in the area you live?
– Player One
38 mins ago
|
show 4 more comments
Since you say you don't want more salary yourself I'll start by addressing the question at the end of your post.
Can I mention anything about the interns pay?
Treat your knowledge of your colleague's salary the same way you would treat any other confidential knowledge: don't disclose it and don't discuss that you know it. It's not your information to share.
But it is bothering me a bit. Not that I want more salary per se. But that the interns 2 years of part time experience are apparently worth the same as my 5 years of full time experience.
It sounds like you feel that your five years of experience should be worth more than your new colleague's two years (which in my opinion is fair enough).
I'd suggest you challenge your thinking around this: instead of thinking they should earn less because you're satisfied with what you earn, start thinking that you deserve more: you're worth more than you were 5 years ago. You can manage projects and review other people's work now. There are other questions on the site about how to approach a situation where you feel underpaid.
answered 5 hours ago
Player OnePlayer One
1,8061611
Since you say you don't want more salary yourself I'll start by addressing the question at the end of your post.
Can I mention anything about the interns pay?
Treat your knowledge of your colleague's salary the same way you would treat any other confidential knowledge: don't disclose it and don't discuss that you know it. It's not your information to share.
But it is bothering me a bit. Not that I want more salary per se. But that the interns 2 years of part time experience are apparently worth the same as my 5 years of full time experience.
It sounds like you feel that your five years of experience should be worth more than your new colleague's two years (which in my opinion is fair enough).
I'd suggest you challenge your thinking around this: instead of thinking they should earn less because you're satisfied with what you earn, start thinking that you deserve more: you're worth more than you were 5 years ago. You can manage projects and review other people's work now. There are other questions on the site about how to approach a situation where you feel underpaid.
answered 5 hours ago
Player OnePlayer One
1,8061611
edited 5 hours ago
answered 5 hours ago
Player OnePlayer One
1,8061611
answered 5 hours ago
Player OnePlayer One
1,8061611
answered 5 hours ago
Player OnePlayer One
1,8061611
1,8061611
4
Please note that salary is personal and not confidential information. I could share my salary with whoever I want and it's illegal for the company to punish me for doing so.
– Adrian Sicaru
1 hour ago
1
@AdrianSicaru it's personal information for the OP's colleague, which has been told to the OP in confidence.
– Player One
1 hour ago
3
This is precisely correct. OP, you must - must - drastically increase your salary in the immediate term.
– Fattie
1 hour ago
2
The thing with asking for a raise is that I just received a significant (20%) raise 4 months ago. Which felt like a lot of appreciation. But a new employee gets it when they start. Effectively canceling out the feeling of appreciation.
– Patrick Nijhuis
46 mins ago
3
@PatrickNijhuis that sounds really frustrating. Have you investigated the salaries for someone with your level of experience in the area you live?
– Player One
38 mins ago
|
show 4 more comments
4
Please note that salary is personal and not confidential information. I could share my salary with whoever I want and it's illegal for the company to punish me for doing so.
– Adrian Sicaru
1 hour ago
1
@AdrianSicaru it's personal information for the OP's colleague, which has been told to the OP in confidence.
– Player One
1 hour ago
3
This is precisely correct. OP, you must - must - drastically increase your salary in the immediate term.
– Fattie
1 hour ago
2
The thing with asking for a raise is that I just received a significant (20%) raise 4 months ago. Which felt like a lot of appreciation. But a new employee gets it when they start. Effectively canceling out the feeling of appreciation.
– Patrick Nijhuis
46 mins ago
3
@PatrickNijhuis that sounds really frustrating. Have you investigated the salaries for someone with your level of experience in the area you live?
– Player One
38 mins ago
4
4
Please note that salary is personal and not confidential information. I could share my salary with whoever I want and it's illegal for the company to punish me for doing so.
– Adrian Sicaru
1 hour ago
Please note that salary is personal and not confidential information. I could share my salary with whoever I want and it's illegal for the company to punish me for doing so.
– Adrian Sicaru
1 hour ago
1
1
@AdrianSicaru it's personal information for the OP's colleague, which has been told to the OP in confidence.
– Player One
1 hour ago
@AdrianSicaru it's personal information for the OP's colleague, which has been told to the OP in confidence.
– Player One
1 hour ago
3
3
This is precisely correct. OP, you must - must - drastically increase your salary in the immediate term.
– Fattie
1 hour ago
This is precisely correct. OP, you must - must - drastically increase your salary in the immediate term.
– Fattie
1 hour ago
2
2
The thing with asking for a raise is that I just received a significant (20%) raise 4 months ago. Which felt like a lot of appreciation. But a new employee gets it when they start. Effectively canceling out the feeling of appreciation.
– Patrick Nijhuis
46 mins ago
The thing with asking for a raise is that I just received a significant (20%) raise 4 months ago. Which felt like a lot of appreciation. But a new employee gets it when they start. Effectively canceling out the feeling of appreciation.
– Patrick Nijhuis
46 mins ago
3
3
@PatrickNijhuis that sounds really frustrating. Have you investigated the salaries for someone with your level of experience in the area you live?
– Player One
38 mins ago
@PatrickNijhuis that sounds really frustrating. Have you investigated the salaries for someone with your level of experience in the area you live?
– Player One
38 mins ago
|
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Salary levels for new hires increase with time, while your existing salary does not, until you get a raise - but that is completely unrelated to the intern's salary offer. If you received an offer of 3000 five years ago, you might receive 3500 with the same CV and experience today.
It doesn't make sense, but that's how it is in reality. Which is why many people change jobs fairly regularly nowadays. It is purely to keep your own salary at market level. Even with regular average raises, you would likely fall behind market levels.
answered 2 hours ago
Juha UntinenJuha Untinen
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Which is why it pays to regularly "test the market", polish up your cv and talk to a recruiter. Every 6-12 months. If nothing else to ensure you're getting what the market pays. If you're far below... get another job offer. Then at least you have a second offer or a bargaining chip to get another raise at present employer. Good luck OP!
– vikingsteve
1 hour ago
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Salary levels for new hires increase with time, while your existing salary does not, until you get a raise - but that is completely unrelated to the intern's salary offer. If you received an offer of 3000 five years ago, you might receive 3500 with the same CV and experience today.
It doesn't make sense, but that's how it is in reality. Which is why many people change jobs fairly regularly nowadays. It is purely to keep your own salary at market level. Even with regular average raises, you would likely fall behind market levels.
answered 2 hours ago
Juha UntinenJuha Untinen
2,55611223
4
Which is why it pays to regularly "test the market", polish up your cv and talk to a recruiter. Every 6-12 months. If nothing else to ensure you're getting what the market pays. If you're far below... get another job offer. Then at least you have a second offer or a bargaining chip to get another raise at present employer. Good luck OP!
– vikingsteve
1 hour ago
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Salary levels for new hires increase with time, while your existing salary does not, until you get a raise - but that is completely unrelated to the intern's salary offer. If you received an offer of 3000 five years ago, you might receive 3500 with the same CV and experience today.
It doesn't make sense, but that's how it is in reality. Which is why many people change jobs fairly regularly nowadays. It is purely to keep your own salary at market level. Even with regular average raises, you would likely fall behind market levels.
answered 2 hours ago
Juha UntinenJuha Untinen
2,55611223
Salary levels for new hires increase with time, while your existing salary does not, until you get a raise - but that is completely unrelated to the intern's salary offer. If you received an offer of 3000 five years ago, you might receive 3500 with the same CV and experience today.
It doesn't make sense, but that's how it is in reality. Which is why many people change jobs fairly regularly nowadays. It is purely to keep your own salary at market level. Even with regular average raises, you would likely fall behind market levels.
answered 2 hours ago
Juha UntinenJuha Untinen
2,55611223
answered 2 hours ago
Juha UntinenJuha Untinen
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answered 2 hours ago
Juha UntinenJuha Untinen
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answered 2 hours ago
Juha UntinenJuha Untinen
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Which is why it pays to regularly "test the market", polish up your cv and talk to a recruiter. Every 6-12 months. If nothing else to ensure you're getting what the market pays. If you're far below... get another job offer. Then at least you have a second offer or a bargaining chip to get another raise at present employer. Good luck OP!
– vikingsteve
1 hour ago
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Which is why it pays to regularly "test the market", polish up your cv and talk to a recruiter. Every 6-12 months. If nothing else to ensure you're getting what the market pays. If you're far below... get another job offer. Then at least you have a second offer or a bargaining chip to get another raise at present employer. Good luck OP!
– vikingsteve
1 hour ago
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Which is why it pays to regularly "test the market", polish up your cv and talk to a recruiter. Every 6-12 months. If nothing else to ensure you're getting what the market pays. If you're far below... get another job offer. Then at least you have a second offer or a bargaining chip to get another raise at present employer. Good luck OP!
– vikingsteve
1 hour ago
Which is why it pays to regularly "test the market", polish up your cv and talk to a recruiter. Every 6-12 months. If nothing else to ensure you're getting what the market pays. If you're far below... get another job offer. Then at least you have a second offer or a bargaining chip to get another raise at present employer. Good luck OP!
– vikingsteve
1 hour ago
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This is normal. New hires wouldn't work if it wasn't. You're not paid based on experience. You're paid based on how much you'll stay at work for. If you want to earn more money, you'll have to job hop. That's pretty standard too.
Should you mention the interns salary? Yes. 100% bring it up. Glass door exists so it's not like you don't know how much people in your company are being paid. If your boss, or whoever is in charge of your salary, thinks that you won't leave or, if they think they can easily replace you, or if there isn't money they won't give you a raise. That's how salary works.
Kinda a rip off if you ask me.
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This is normal. New hires wouldn't work if it wasn't. You're not paid based on experience. You're paid based on how much you'll stay at work for. If you want to earn more money, you'll have to job hop. That's pretty standard too.
Should you mention the interns salary? Yes. 100% bring it up. Glass door exists so it's not like you don't know how much people in your company are being paid. If your boss, or whoever is in charge of your salary, thinks that you won't leave or, if they think they can easily replace you, or if there isn't money they won't give you a raise. That's how salary works.
Kinda a rip off if you ask me.
answered 10 mins ago
SteveSteve
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This is normal. New hires wouldn't work if it wasn't. You're not paid based on experience. You're paid based on how much you'll stay at work for. If you want to earn more money, you'll have to job hop. That's pretty standard too.
Should you mention the interns salary? Yes. 100% bring it up. Glass door exists so it's not like you don't know how much people in your company are being paid. If your boss, or whoever is in charge of your salary, thinks that you won't leave or, if they think they can easily replace you, or if there isn't money they won't give you a raise. That's how salary works.
Kinda a rip off if you ask me.
answered 10 mins ago
SteveSteve
3,564722
This is normal. New hires wouldn't work if it wasn't. You're not paid based on experience. You're paid based on how much you'll stay at work for. If you want to earn more money, you'll have to job hop. That's pretty standard too.
Should you mention the interns salary? Yes. 100% bring it up. Glass door exists so it's not like you don't know how much people in your company are being paid. If your boss, or whoever is in charge of your salary, thinks that you won't leave or, if they think they can easily replace you, or if there isn't money they won't give you a raise. That's how salary works.
Kinda a rip off if you ask me.
answered 10 mins ago
SteveSteve
3,564722
answered 10 mins ago
SteveSteve
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answered 10 mins ago
SteveSteve
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SteveSteve
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Possible duplicate of How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid?
– gnat
6 hours ago
@gnat the question you linked is sort of similar. But there is now answer on how to handle the fact that I know the interns pay.
– Patrick Nijhuis
6 hours ago
I would have answered, but given that my last answer on the same premise is not liked by the community, I'd refrain. :)
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
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Just saying: It’s not an intern getting a good job offer, it is a previous intern. Good companies take an internship as a looong job interview. It looks like that person did very well in their job interview. Please be respectful and don’t talk about your new colleague as “the intern”. He isn’t.
– gnasher729
5 hours ago
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@gnasher729 I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. Just having a hard time to make clear who I'm talking about without giving names.
– Patrick Nijhuis
5 hours ago