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Double-nominative constructions and “von”



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When do you use von and when do you use a double-nominative construction, such as discussed at this linked question, when talking about the amount of something? Compare, for example,




ein Glas Wasser




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    There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"

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When do you use von and when do you use a double-nominative construction, such as discussed at this linked question, when talking about the amount of something? Compare, for example,




ein Glas Wasser




and




tausende von Büchern











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    There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"

    – tofro
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When do you use von and when do you use a double-nominative construction, such as discussed at this linked question, when talking about the amount of something? Compare, for example,




ein Glas Wasser




and




tausende von Büchern











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When do you use von and when do you use a double-nominative construction, such as discussed at this linked question, when talking about the amount of something? Compare, for example,




ein Glas Wasser




and




tausende von Büchern








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    There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"

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    There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"

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There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"

– tofro
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There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"

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The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.



Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:




Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.



Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.




The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.



Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.






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    This is a Partitive Apposition, see Canoo.net. It is just specification of an amount. Similarly constructed are drei Liter Wasser, 100g Mehl.






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      The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.



      Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:




      Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.



      Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.




      The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.



      Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.






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        The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.



        Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:




        Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.



        Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.




        The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.



        Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.






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          The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.



          Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:




          Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.



          Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.




          The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.



          Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.






          share|improve this answer













          The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.



          Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:




          Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.



          Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.




          The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.



          Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.







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              This is a Partitive Apposition, see Canoo.net. It is just specification of an amount. Similarly constructed are drei Liter Wasser, 100g Mehl.






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                This is a Partitive Apposition, see Canoo.net. It is just specification of an amount. Similarly constructed are drei Liter Wasser, 100g Mehl.






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                  This is a Partitive Apposition, see Canoo.net. It is just specification of an amount. Similarly constructed are drei Liter Wasser, 100g Mehl.






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