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I am planning to get to Zurich on Jun 13 and I land in Paris on Jun 12 at 16:40PM. While I could fly, the train doesn't look so bad. I am trying to find a train around 6PM going to somewhere that would get me closer to Zurich. I have already figured out the TGV Lyria stops at Dijon, Belfort-Montbéliard, Mulhouse and Basel. Searched SNCF for CDG-Dijon and the train is at 19:57 which is no good, I am incoming from Vancouver, I would die waiting two hours for my train. There is a train to Lyon at 17:57 which is great but for my life I can't figure out where does it stop because going all the way to Lyon is clearly counterproductive.

What I can't find on the SNCF site are timetables. I can find realtime departures (useless) and a route finder which is equally useless. I am 100% these exist but where are they?

trains sncf

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I am planning to get to Zurich on Jun 13 and I land in Paris on Jun 12 at 16:40PM. While I could fly, the train doesn't look so bad. I am trying to find a train around 6PM going to somewhere that would get me closer to Zurich. I have already figured out the TGV Lyria stops at Dijon, Belfort-Montbéliard, Mulhouse and Basel. Searched SNCF for CDG-Dijon and the train is at 19:57 which is no good, I am incoming from Vancouver, I would die waiting two hours for my train. There is a train to Lyon at 17:57 which is great but for my life I can't figure out where does it stop because going all the way to Lyon is clearly counterproductive.

What I can't find on the SNCF site are timetables. I can find realtime departures (useless) and a route finder which is equally useless. I am 100% these exist but where are they?

trains sncf

share|improve this question

edited 8 hours ago

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43.8k7105164

asked 9 hours ago

chxchx

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  Everytime someone says "Man, I will hate being stuck in downtown <glamorous city> for 3 hours waiting for a train connection", I wish I could trade places with them for those hours.
  
  – Harper
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  I would be stuck in the train station of the remarkably less glamorous Paris CDG airport. Not to mention I am too old to go sightseeing after being awake for 20-24 hours which a trip like this necessarily means. I am happy for you if you can but I can't.
  
  – chx
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

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I am planning to get to Zurich on Jun 13 and I land in Paris on Jun 12 at 16:40PM. While I could fly, the train doesn't look so bad. I am trying to find a train around 6PM going to somewhere that would get me closer to Zurich. I have already figured out the TGV Lyria stops at Dijon, Belfort-Montbéliard, Mulhouse and Basel. Searched SNCF for CDG-Dijon and the train is at 19:57 which is no good, I am incoming from Vancouver, I would die waiting two hours for my train. There is a train to Lyon at 17:57 which is great but for my life I can't figure out where does it stop because going all the way to Lyon is clearly counterproductive.

What I can't find on the SNCF site are timetables. I can find realtime departures (useless) and a route finder which is equally useless. I am 100% these exist but where are they?

trains sncf

share|improve this question

edited 8 hours ago

Henning Makholm

43.8k7105164

asked 9 hours ago

chxchx

38.9k485192

share|improve this question

edited 8 hours ago

Henning Makholm

43.8k7105164

asked 9 hours ago

chxchx

38.9k485192

share|improve this question

edited 8 hours ago

Henning Makholm

43.8k7105164

asked 9 hours ago

chxchx

38.9k485192

edited 8 hours ago

Henning Makholm

43.8k7105164

edited 8 hours ago

Henning Makholm

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asked 9 hours ago

chxchx

38.9k485192

asked 9 hours ago

chxchx

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You can use the DB site, to get an overview which trains are departing at a given station in a given time frame: https://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/bhftafel.exe/en

If you click then on a train number, you get the schedule for that train with all stops and times.

On that page, the "ICE" category includes TGV, Thalys and other high velocity trains.

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CDG-Zürich is not an easy one by train, honestly.

• Trains from Paris (center) to Zürich use the LGV Sud-Est, go through Dijon, then on to the LGV Rhin-Rhone, Mulhouse and Basel (red on the map). They still take a bit over 4 hours.




• Trains from CDG either run on the LGV Est towards Strasbourg (blue), or the LGV Sud-Est down towards Lyon (more often Lyon Airport, I believe), green on the map.

So you could take a TGV from CDG to Strasbourg, then TER down to Basel and an IR to Zurich (depart CDG 18:28, arrive in Zurich 00:24).

The other option is to get from CDG to Paris Gare de Lyon where you can get a direct TGV to Zurich (depart Gare de Lyon 18:23, arrive in Zurich 22:26). Timing in Paris is a bit tight, though, you would need to be at the CDG TGV station by 17:20 to have a chance to catch that TGV, and you are dependent on the notoriously unreliable RER B and D.

Not really sure there are any other easy options, you probably would have to go through Lyon and Geneva, which is quite a detour.

Note the SNCF site will not show connections with more than 2 changes, while the DB or SBB sites will.

I really think your best option here is still to fly from CDG to Zurich.

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Not sure whether this is what you are looking for, but this link seems to work for me. Basically you can enter your "From" and "To" place directly on https://www.sncf.com/en.

Unless you can catch the 18:23 in Paris (which should arrive in Zurich at 22:26) you might be better off with spending a night in Paris and taking the TGV leaving 07:23 on Jun 13th to arrive in Zurich at 11:26. There are some connections in-between, but they require you to change the train quite often during the night. If you want to look into those anyway, try https://www.sbb.ch/ which worked better for me in this case.

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  No, sorry this is not what I need, I do not plan going all the way to Zurich on the 12th, I am looking for a place between Paris and Zurich where to spend the night.
  
  – chx
  8 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @chx No problem, this wasn't clear in your question though. Anyway, welcome to Zurich, hope you'll like it here.
  
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You can use the DB site, to get an overview which trains are departing at a given station in a given time frame: https://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/bhftafel.exe/en

If you click then on a train number, you get the schedule for that train with all stops and times.

On that page, the "ICE" category includes TGV, Thalys and other high velocity trains.

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

dunnidunni

3,36111420

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thanks! I used bahn.de as an all-European route planner but didn't realize it had this laid out so neatly. And, now I can see I will fly. Sigh.
  
  – chx
  8 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

6

You can use the DB site, to get an overview which trains are departing at a given station in a given time frame: https://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/bhftafel.exe/en

If you click then on a train number, you get the schedule for that train with all stops and times.

On that page, the "ICE" category includes TGV, Thalys and other high velocity trains.

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

dunnidunni

3,36111420

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thanks! I used bahn.de as an all-European route planner but didn't realize it had this laid out so neatly. And, now I can see I will fly. Sigh.
  
  – chx
  8 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

You can use the DB site, to get an overview which trains are departing at a given station in a given time frame: https://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/bhftafel.exe/en

If you click then on a train number, you get the schedule for that train with all stops and times.

On that page, the "ICE" category includes TGV, Thalys and other high velocity trains.

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

dunnidunni

3,36111420

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

dunnidunni

3,36111420

answered 8 hours ago

dunnidunni

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answered 8 hours ago

dunnidunni

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CDG-Zürich is not an easy one by train, honestly.

• Trains from Paris (center) to Zürich use the LGV Sud-Est, go through Dijon, then on to the LGV Rhin-Rhone, Mulhouse and Basel (red on the map). They still take a bit over 4 hours.




• Trains from CDG either run on the LGV Est towards Strasbourg (blue), or the LGV Sud-Est down towards Lyon (more often Lyon Airport, I believe), green on the map.

So you could take a TGV from CDG to Strasbourg, then TER down to Basel and an IR to Zurich (depart CDG 18:28, arrive in Zurich 00:24).

The other option is to get from CDG to Paris Gare de Lyon where you can get a direct TGV to Zurich (depart Gare de Lyon 18:23, arrive in Zurich 22:26). Timing in Paris is a bit tight, though, you would need to be at the CDG TGV station by 17:20 to have a chance to catch that TGV, and you are dependent on the notoriously unreliable RER B and D.

Not really sure there are any other easy options, you probably would have to go through Lyon and Geneva, which is quite a detour.

Note the SNCF site will not show connections with more than 2 changes, while the DB or SBB sites will.

I really think your best option here is still to fly from CDG to Zurich.

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edited 5 hours ago

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  A tremendous answer that should have more upvotes... Could he board the red and change to the green in the shared-track area?
  
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5

CDG-Zürich is not an easy one by train, honestly.

• Trains from Paris (center) to Zürich use the LGV Sud-Est, go through Dijon, then on to the LGV Rhin-Rhone, Mulhouse and Basel (red on the map). They still take a bit over 4 hours.




• Trains from CDG either run on the LGV Est towards Strasbourg (blue), or the LGV Sud-Est down towards Lyon (more often Lyon Airport, I believe), green on the map.

So you could take a TGV from CDG to Strasbourg, then TER down to Basel and an IR to Zurich (depart CDG 18:28, arrive in Zurich 00:24).

The other option is to get from CDG to Paris Gare de Lyon where you can get a direct TGV to Zurich (depart Gare de Lyon 18:23, arrive in Zurich 22:26). Timing in Paris is a bit tight, though, you would need to be at the CDG TGV station by 17:20 to have a chance to catch that TGV, and you are dependent on the notoriously unreliable RER B and D.

Not really sure there are any other easy options, you probably would have to go through Lyon and Geneva, which is quite a detour.

Note the SNCF site will not show connections with more than 2 changes, while the DB or SBB sites will.

I really think your best option here is still to fly from CDG to Zurich.

share|improve this answer

edited 5 hours ago

answered 8 hours ago

jcaronjcaron

12.4k12260

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  A tremendous answer that should have more upvotes... Could he board the red and change to the green in the shared-track area?
  
  – Harper
  1 hour ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

CDG-Zürich is not an easy one by train, honestly.

• Trains from Paris (center) to Zürich use the LGV Sud-Est, go through Dijon, then on to the LGV Rhin-Rhone, Mulhouse and Basel (red on the map). They still take a bit over 4 hours.




• Trains from CDG either run on the LGV Est towards Strasbourg (blue), or the LGV Sud-Est down towards Lyon (more often Lyon Airport, I believe), green on the map.

So you could take a TGV from CDG to Strasbourg, then TER down to Basel and an IR to Zurich (depart CDG 18:28, arrive in Zurich 00:24).

The other option is to get from CDG to Paris Gare de Lyon where you can get a direct TGV to Zurich (depart Gare de Lyon 18:23, arrive in Zurich 22:26). Timing in Paris is a bit tight, though, you would need to be at the CDG TGV station by 17:20 to have a chance to catch that TGV, and you are dependent on the notoriously unreliable RER B and D.

Not really sure there are any other easy options, you probably would have to go through Lyon and Geneva, which is quite a detour.

Note the SNCF site will not show connections with more than 2 changes, while the DB or SBB sites will.

I really think your best option here is still to fly from CDG to Zurich.

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edited 5 hours ago

answered 8 hours ago

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edited 5 hours ago

answered 8 hours ago

jcaronjcaron

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answered 8 hours ago

jcaronjcaron

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answered 8 hours ago

jcaronjcaron

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Not sure whether this is what you are looking for, but this link seems to work for me. Basically you can enter your "From" and "To" place directly on https://www.sncf.com/en.

Unless you can catch the 18:23 in Paris (which should arrive in Zurich at 22:26) you might be better off with spending a night in Paris and taking the TGV leaving 07:23 on Jun 13th to arrive in Zurich at 11:26. There are some connections in-between, but they require you to change the train quite often during the night. If you want to look into those anyway, try https://www.sbb.ch/ which worked better for me in this case.

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

nohillsidenohillside

33425

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  No, sorry this is not what I need, I do not plan going all the way to Zurich on the 12th, I am looking for a place between Paris and Zurich where to spend the night.
  
  – chx
  8 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
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  @chx No problem, this wasn't clear in your question though. Anyway, welcome to Zurich, hope you'll like it here.
  
  – nohillside
  8 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  "I am trying to find a train around 6PM going to somewhere that would get me closer to Zurich. "
  
  – chx
  8 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

2

Not sure whether this is what you are looking for, but this link seems to work for me. Basically you can enter your "From" and "To" place directly on https://www.sncf.com/en.

Unless you can catch the 18:23 in Paris (which should arrive in Zurich at 22:26) you might be better off with spending a night in Paris and taking the TGV leaving 07:23 on Jun 13th to arrive in Zurich at 11:26. There are some connections in-between, but they require you to change the train quite often during the night. If you want to look into those anyway, try https://www.sbb.ch/ which worked better for me in this case.

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

nohillsidenohillside

33425

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  No, sorry this is not what I need, I do not plan going all the way to Zurich on the 12th, I am looking for a place between Paris and Zurich where to spend the night.
  
  – chx
  8 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @chx No problem, this wasn't clear in your question though. Anyway, welcome to Zurich, hope you'll like it here.
  
  – nohillside
  8 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  "I am trying to find a train around 6PM going to somewhere that would get me closer to Zurich. "
  
  – chx
  8 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Not sure whether this is what you are looking for, but this link seems to work for me. Basically you can enter your "From" and "To" place directly on https://www.sncf.com/en.

Unless you can catch the 18:23 in Paris (which should arrive in Zurich at 22:26) you might be better off with spending a night in Paris and taking the TGV leaving 07:23 on Jun 13th to arrive in Zurich at 11:26. There are some connections in-between, but they require you to change the train quite often during the night. If you want to look into those anyway, try https://www.sbb.ch/ which worked better for me in this case.

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

nohillsidenohillside

33425

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

nohillsidenohillside

33425

answered 8 hours ago

nohillsidenohillside

33425

answered 8 hours ago

nohillsidenohillside

33425