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I am presently interning at a company as a part of my B.Tech curriculum. This is my final semester, and once this internship ends that is the end of my B.Tech degree.



One of my B Tech colleagues also works here, and HR has informed me that while I will be hired once the internship ends, he will not be. They have also asked me to keep this information to myself, as they don't want him to lose focus.



I believe he has the right to know, but in the past he has acted irrationally, and I suspect that he would confront HR with this information. Should I let him know - which also endangers my chances here - or should I go along with what is happening and not let him know to look for other jobs until it's too late?










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    @UKMonkey How are the GDPR conditions breached?

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    @the_mad_hatter Not wishing to mess with your head, but how do you know HR didn't tell your colleague the exact same thing?

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    @Justin Unlikely. HR in the UK isn't generally out to get you.

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    @UKMonkey The GDPR is completely irrelevant. Please read the first paragraph of GDPR article 2, where the "material scope" is described. When HR took the decision not to hire the other person, this information certainly wasn't part of any "automated means of processing personal data" (e.g. database), nor any "part of a filing system". This information went straight from HR's brains, where it emerged, to OP's ears through HR's mouth. Don't make simple things more complicated than they are.

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    @UKMonkey Yes, it is personal data that is not part of the GDPR scope. Both conditions have to be true: 1) personal data 2) processed wholly or partly by automated means or [...] filing system. This is pretty clear in the official texts.

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I am presently interning at a company as a part of my B.Tech curriculum. This is my final semester, and once this internship ends that is the end of my B.Tech degree.



One of my B Tech colleagues also works here, and HR has informed me that while I will be hired once the internship ends, he will not be. They have also asked me to keep this information to myself, as they don't want him to lose focus.



I believe he has the right to know, but in the past he has acted irrationally, and I suspect that he would confront HR with this information. Should I let him know - which also endangers my chances here - or should I go along with what is happening and not let him know to look for other jobs until it's too late?










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    @UKMonkey How are the GDPR conditions breached?

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    @UKMonkey The GDPR is completely irrelevant. Please read the first paragraph of GDPR article 2, where the "material scope" is described. When HR took the decision not to hire the other person, this information certainly wasn't part of any "automated means of processing personal data" (e.g. database), nor any "part of a filing system". This information went straight from HR's brains, where it emerged, to OP's ears through HR's mouth. Don't make simple things more complicated than they are.

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    @UKMonkey Yes, it is personal data that is not part of the GDPR scope. Both conditions have to be true: 1) personal data 2) processed wholly or partly by automated means or [...] filing system. This is pretty clear in the official texts.

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I am presently interning at a company as a part of my B.Tech curriculum. This is my final semester, and once this internship ends that is the end of my B.Tech degree.



One of my B Tech colleagues also works here, and HR has informed me that while I will be hired once the internship ends, he will not be. They have also asked me to keep this information to myself, as they don't want him to lose focus.



I believe he has the right to know, but in the past he has acted irrationally, and I suspect that he would confront HR with this information. Should I let him know - which also endangers my chances here - or should I go along with what is happening and not let him know to look for other jobs until it's too late?










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I am presently interning at a company as a part of my B.Tech curriculum. This is my final semester, and once this internship ends that is the end of my B.Tech degree.



One of my B Tech colleagues also works here, and HR has informed me that while I will be hired once the internship ends, he will not be. They have also asked me to keep this information to myself, as they don't want him to lose focus.



I believe he has the right to know, but in the past he has acted irrationally, and I suspect that he would confront HR with this information. Should I let him know - which also endangers my chances here - or should I go along with what is happening and not let him know to look for other jobs until it's too late?







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    @Justin Unlikely. HR in the UK isn't generally out to get you.

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    @UKMonkey The GDPR is completely irrelevant. Please read the first paragraph of GDPR article 2, where the "material scope" is described. When HR took the decision not to hire the other person, this information certainly wasn't part of any "automated means of processing personal data" (e.g. database), nor any "part of a filing system". This information went straight from HR's brains, where it emerged, to OP's ears through HR's mouth. Don't make simple things more complicated than they are.

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    @UKMonkey Yes, it is personal data that is not part of the GDPR scope. Both conditions have to be true: 1) personal data 2) processed wholly or partly by automated means or [...] filing system. This is pretty clear in the official texts.

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    @Justin Unlikely. HR in the UK isn't generally out to get you.

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    @UKMonkey The GDPR is completely irrelevant. Please read the first paragraph of GDPR article 2, where the "material scope" is described. When HR took the decision not to hire the other person, this information certainly wasn't part of any "automated means of processing personal data" (e.g. database), nor any "part of a filing system". This information went straight from HR's brains, where it emerged, to OP's ears through HR's mouth. Don't make simple things more complicated than they are.

    – dim
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    @UKMonkey Yes, it is personal data that is not part of the GDPR scope. Both conditions have to be true: 1) personal data 2) processed wholly or partly by automated means or [...] filing system. This is pretty clear in the official texts.

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@the_mad_hatter Not wishing to mess with your head, but how do you know HR didn't tell your colleague the exact same thing?

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@Justin Unlikely. HR in the UK isn't generally out to get you.

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@Justin Unlikely. HR in the UK isn't generally out to get you.

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@UKMonkey The GDPR is completely irrelevant. Please read the first paragraph of GDPR article 2, where the "material scope" is described. When HR took the decision not to hire the other person, this information certainly wasn't part of any "automated means of processing personal data" (e.g. database), nor any "part of a filing system". This information went straight from HR's brains, where it emerged, to OP's ears through HR's mouth. Don't make simple things more complicated than they are.

– dim
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@UKMonkey The GDPR is completely irrelevant. Please read the first paragraph of GDPR article 2, where the "material scope" is described. When HR took the decision not to hire the other person, this information certainly wasn't part of any "automated means of processing personal data" (e.g. database), nor any "part of a filing system". This information went straight from HR's brains, where it emerged, to OP's ears through HR's mouth. Don't make simple things more complicated than they are.

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@UKMonkey Yes, it is personal data that is not part of the GDPR scope. Both conditions have to be true: 1) personal data 2) processed wholly or partly by automated means or [...] filing system. This is pretty clear in the official texts.

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@UKMonkey Yes, it is personal data that is not part of the GDPR scope. Both conditions have to be true: 1) personal data 2) processed wholly or partly by automated means or [...] filing system. This is pretty clear in the official texts.

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First of all, what I believe, HR should not have disclosed this information in first place.



However, given the situation, I strongly suggest not to disclose it. As I read it, it's still a company secret (yet to be revealed officially), so not your place to reveal it.



Alongside that, it's a good chance to teach yourself how to handle the confidential information. I'd not say this is a good example for the exercise, however, make the best out of it.





That said, maybe I'm overthinking this, but given that




I believe he has the right to know but in the past he has acted irrationally with information and I suspect that if I tell him he will confront the HR with the same information.




this can be case where you are being tested on how you handle confidential information revealed to you by chance and how compliant you are with InfoSec (Information Security) policies.






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    I think there can be valid reasons why HR could share this information. 1. If there is only one position to fill and two interns, one getting the position implies the other one not getting it - making it explicit not to tell the other one prevents a slip. -- 2. They could be sharing certain workloads/projects, which OP needs to take over - early information will help him to do this, before the other one might throw a tantrum, ...

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HR told you not to tell him



You're saying telling him is a bad idea.



And you're asking should I tell him?



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    There are hundreds of questions on this site where the asker overthinks some issue even if it is obvious to others what to do. I feel answers like this aren't helpful in any way in those situations. To me it even looks like you are kind of mocking OP for not seeing the obvious. If the answer were that obvious to OP, they wouldn't have asked.

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    Besides OP is taking into consideration the ethical implications of their actions. From a purely egoistic standpoint the choice is clear to them as well, as shown from "I believe he has the right to know" versus "which also endangers my chances here".

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    This answer, while making a valid point, does come across as a bit harsh. Can you work on that part of the answer?

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    @MisterPositive It makes a counter question, implying that the answer is obvious. OP came on forum to find out what others think, not to get patronized. There is nothing to work on here, really.

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HR seemed to be honest with you, they trusted you. As you describe the situation, you cannot do much to help your colleague.



But if you inform him, there is a significant chance that you shoot yourself in the foot. As you already fear, HR will find out, and they will surely not be happy.



In life, some things happen, and you cannot save everybody. Sad, but true. Let your colleague deal with his own problems, you deal with yours.






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  • That is the inclination I have as well, had he been rational in the past I would have hinted him to start looking for other jobs, but that hasn't been his record.

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    Exactly as you say: he is not even to be trusted with the information. One very good reason to care about yourself first.

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    Let's be more blunt here: if HR has told you to keep it to yourself, they can still rescind your offer if you don't comply. And in their shoes, frankly, I would too

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I see two problem statements here -




  • You know something which you should not have known. Somebody breached the rule and told you some information which you should protect now. My Suggestion is don't tell it to your friend or else he and you both will be in trouble. Even if you tell him this information, it is not going to help him out. He will confront HR and lose reference as well. He wasn't getting the job anyway.

  • 2nd, you want to help your colleague.
    Don't even hint it to the other person if he is not very close to him.
    Now, I would tell him that it is always a good idea to keep a backup plan if you don't get the job with the current organization. Also include that if offered, your first preference to take the job here. Again, don't bring up this conversation by yourself, but don't be afraid to tell him above in case he looks worried. If your colleague is not smart enough to take the hint, it is not your problem anymore.






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    You should not tell your colleague.



    It's not your responsibility to tell them. Given that you called this person a colleague rather than friend, you don't seem to have emotional closeness to this person. You don't owe them anything. One of the best skills for a professional is discerning when it's best to mind your own business.



    Additionally, just because someone from HR told you, doesn't mean it's necessarily true. If you can't verify it, it's just gossip. Another great skill that will increase your professional value is not spreading gossip.






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      I definitely agree you should not tell the colleague, and that it could be a test.



      Now, if you really feel bad about it, you might go side ways about it and tell the colleague how you are yourself looking for other opportunities just in case you wouldn't get hired.
      Might be seen as a lie, but actually might even be something good for your to do: until you have a signed contract in your hands, you're not hired.






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        if the plan is to accept an offer i would avoid actively telling any colleagues that you are looking to find other roles, that kind of thing will get back to the higher ups and could cost you the position you would of otherwise been offered.

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      • This was also what I was thinking, but I would frame it more like "Hey have you been looking around for any other jobs after this internship is over?" More of a hint that he should be looking rather than outright tell him that you are looking.

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      • That should be a -response- to the other intern bringing up the topic, not something the OP brings up spontaneously. Unless he's a very good liar indeed and certain he can pull it off, and even then the other intern is bound to wonder why the OP would bring this up

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      Remember that scene from Matrix movie? About Neo visiting Oracle, once he quits Morpheus stopped Neo's attempt to share the visit results: "What was said was for you and for you alone".



      So, you should take into account that HR can simply...




      • ... check you "does he able to keep things in secret"

      • ... trying to manipulate you "let him feel his importance, like he's Chosen one"

      • And many other things you have no clue about yet


      Anyway, from my point, this situation is not a good sign. Stay sharp.






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        First of all, what I believe, HR should not have disclosed this information in first place.



        However, given the situation, I strongly suggest not to disclose it. As I read it, it's still a company secret (yet to be revealed officially), so not your place to reveal it.



        Alongside that, it's a good chance to teach yourself how to handle the confidential information. I'd not say this is a good example for the exercise, however, make the best out of it.





        That said, maybe I'm overthinking this, but given that




        I believe he has the right to know but in the past he has acted irrationally with information and I suspect that if I tell him he will confront the HR with the same information.




        this can be case where you are being tested on how you handle confidential information revealed to you by chance and how compliant you are with InfoSec (Information Security) policies.






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          I think there can be valid reasons why HR could share this information. 1. If there is only one position to fill and two interns, one getting the position implies the other one not getting it - making it explicit not to tell the other one prevents a slip. -- 2. They could be sharing certain workloads/projects, which OP needs to take over - early information will help him to do this, before the other one might throw a tantrum, ...

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        First of all, what I believe, HR should not have disclosed this information in first place.



        However, given the situation, I strongly suggest not to disclose it. As I read it, it's still a company secret (yet to be revealed officially), so not your place to reveal it.



        Alongside that, it's a good chance to teach yourself how to handle the confidential information. I'd not say this is a good example for the exercise, however, make the best out of it.





        That said, maybe I'm overthinking this, but given that




        I believe he has the right to know but in the past he has acted irrationally with information and I suspect that if I tell him he will confront the HR with the same information.




        this can be case where you are being tested on how you handle confidential information revealed to you by chance and how compliant you are with InfoSec (Information Security) policies.






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          I think there can be valid reasons why HR could share this information. 1. If there is only one position to fill and two interns, one getting the position implies the other one not getting it - making it explicit not to tell the other one prevents a slip. -- 2. They could be sharing certain workloads/projects, which OP needs to take over - early information will help him to do this, before the other one might throw a tantrum, ...

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        First of all, what I believe, HR should not have disclosed this information in first place.



        However, given the situation, I strongly suggest not to disclose it. As I read it, it's still a company secret (yet to be revealed officially), so not your place to reveal it.



        Alongside that, it's a good chance to teach yourself how to handle the confidential information. I'd not say this is a good example for the exercise, however, make the best out of it.





        That said, maybe I'm overthinking this, but given that




        I believe he has the right to know but in the past he has acted irrationally with information and I suspect that if I tell him he will confront the HR with the same information.




        this can be case where you are being tested on how you handle confidential information revealed to you by chance and how compliant you are with InfoSec (Information Security) policies.






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        First of all, what I believe, HR should not have disclosed this information in first place.



        However, given the situation, I strongly suggest not to disclose it. As I read it, it's still a company secret (yet to be revealed officially), so not your place to reveal it.



        Alongside that, it's a good chance to teach yourself how to handle the confidential information. I'd not say this is a good example for the exercise, however, make the best out of it.





        That said, maybe I'm overthinking this, but given that




        I believe he has the right to know but in the past he has acted irrationally with information and I suspect that if I tell him he will confront the HR with the same information.




        this can be case where you are being tested on how you handle confidential information revealed to you by chance and how compliant you are with InfoSec (Information Security) policies.







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          I think there can be valid reasons why HR could share this information. 1. If there is only one position to fill and two interns, one getting the position implies the other one not getting it - making it explicit not to tell the other one prevents a slip. -- 2. They could be sharing certain workloads/projects, which OP needs to take over - early information will help him to do this, before the other one might throw a tantrum, ...

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          I think there can be valid reasons why HR could share this information. 1. If there is only one position to fill and two interns, one getting the position implies the other one not getting it - making it explicit not to tell the other one prevents a slip. -- 2. They could be sharing certain workloads/projects, which OP needs to take over - early information will help him to do this, before the other one might throw a tantrum, ...

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          Everyone who is "@" tagging the OP's real username in these comments should probably consider editing them in order to protect his identity, now that the original question has been disassociated.

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        I think there can be valid reasons why HR could share this information. 1. If there is only one position to fill and two interns, one getting the position implies the other one not getting it - making it explicit not to tell the other one prevents a slip. -- 2. They could be sharing certain workloads/projects, which OP needs to take over - early information will help him to do this, before the other one might throw a tantrum, ...

        – Falco
        14 hours ago







        I think there can be valid reasons why HR could share this information. 1. If there is only one position to fill and two interns, one getting the position implies the other one not getting it - making it explicit not to tell the other one prevents a slip. -- 2. They could be sharing certain workloads/projects, which OP needs to take over - early information will help him to do this, before the other one might throw a tantrum, ...

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        Everyone who is "@" tagging the OP's real username in these comments should probably consider editing them in order to protect his identity, now that the original question has been disassociated.

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        HR told you not to tell him



        You're saying telling him is a bad idea.



        And you're asking should I tell him?



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          There are hundreds of questions on this site where the asker overthinks some issue even if it is obvious to others what to do. I feel answers like this aren't helpful in any way in those situations. To me it even looks like you are kind of mocking OP for not seeing the obvious. If the answer were that obvious to OP, they wouldn't have asked.

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          Besides OP is taking into consideration the ethical implications of their actions. From a purely egoistic standpoint the choice is clear to them as well, as shown from "I believe he has the right to know" versus "which also endangers my chances here".

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          This answer, while making a valid point, does come across as a bit harsh. Can you work on that part of the answer?

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          10 hours ago






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          @MisterPositive It makes a counter question, implying that the answer is obvious. OP came on forum to find out what others think, not to get patronized. There is nothing to work on here, really.

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          @Atizs It also comes across as sarcastic and condescending.

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        HR told you not to tell him



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        And you're asking should I tell him?



        What do you think?






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          There are hundreds of questions on this site where the asker overthinks some issue even if it is obvious to others what to do. I feel answers like this aren't helpful in any way in those situations. To me it even looks like you are kind of mocking OP for not seeing the obvious. If the answer were that obvious to OP, they wouldn't have asked.

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          Besides OP is taking into consideration the ethical implications of their actions. From a purely egoistic standpoint the choice is clear to them as well, as shown from "I believe he has the right to know" versus "which also endangers my chances here".

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          This answer, while making a valid point, does come across as a bit harsh. Can you work on that part of the answer?

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          10 hours ago






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          @MisterPositive It makes a counter question, implying that the answer is obvious. OP came on forum to find out what others think, not to get patronized. There is nothing to work on here, really.

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          @Atizs It also comes across as sarcastic and condescending.

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        HR told you not to tell him



        You're saying telling him is a bad idea.



        And you're asking should I tell him?



        What do you think?






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        HR told you not to tell him



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        And you're asking should I tell him?



        What do you think?







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          There are hundreds of questions on this site where the asker overthinks some issue even if it is obvious to others what to do. I feel answers like this aren't helpful in any way in those situations. To me it even looks like you are kind of mocking OP for not seeing the obvious. If the answer were that obvious to OP, they wouldn't have asked.

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          Besides OP is taking into consideration the ethical implications of their actions. From a purely egoistic standpoint the choice is clear to them as well, as shown from "I believe he has the right to know" versus "which also endangers my chances here".

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          This answer, while making a valid point, does come across as a bit harsh. Can you work on that part of the answer?

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          10 hours ago






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          @MisterPositive It makes a counter question, implying that the answer is obvious. OP came on forum to find out what others think, not to get patronized. There is nothing to work on here, really.

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          8 hours ago






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          @Atizs It also comes across as sarcastic and condescending.

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          There are hundreds of questions on this site where the asker overthinks some issue even if it is obvious to others what to do. I feel answers like this aren't helpful in any way in those situations. To me it even looks like you are kind of mocking OP for not seeing the obvious. If the answer were that obvious to OP, they wouldn't have asked.

          – kapex
          16 hours ago








        • 5





          Besides OP is taking into consideration the ethical implications of their actions. From a purely egoistic standpoint the choice is clear to them as well, as shown from "I believe he has the right to know" versus "which also endangers my chances here".

          – Mär
          14 hours ago








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          This answer, while making a valid point, does come across as a bit harsh. Can you work on that part of the answer?

          – Mister Positive
          10 hours ago






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          @MisterPositive It makes a counter question, implying that the answer is obvious. OP came on forum to find out what others think, not to get patronized. There is nothing to work on here, really.

          – Atizs
          8 hours ago






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          @Atizs It also comes across as sarcastic and condescending.

          – Mister Positive
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        There are hundreds of questions on this site where the asker overthinks some issue even if it is obvious to others what to do. I feel answers like this aren't helpful in any way in those situations. To me it even looks like you are kind of mocking OP for not seeing the obvious. If the answer were that obvious to OP, they wouldn't have asked.

        – kapex
        16 hours ago







        There are hundreds of questions on this site where the asker overthinks some issue even if it is obvious to others what to do. I feel answers like this aren't helpful in any way in those situations. To me it even looks like you are kind of mocking OP for not seeing the obvious. If the answer were that obvious to OP, they wouldn't have asked.

        – kapex
        16 hours ago






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        Besides OP is taking into consideration the ethical implications of their actions. From a purely egoistic standpoint the choice is clear to them as well, as shown from "I believe he has the right to know" versus "which also endangers my chances here".

        – Mär
        14 hours ago







        Besides OP is taking into consideration the ethical implications of their actions. From a purely egoistic standpoint the choice is clear to them as well, as shown from "I believe he has the right to know" versus "which also endangers my chances here".

        – Mär
        14 hours ago






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        This answer, while making a valid point, does come across as a bit harsh. Can you work on that part of the answer?

        – Mister Positive
        10 hours ago





        This answer, while making a valid point, does come across as a bit harsh. Can you work on that part of the answer?

        – Mister Positive
        10 hours ago




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        @MisterPositive It makes a counter question, implying that the answer is obvious. OP came on forum to find out what others think, not to get patronized. There is nothing to work on here, really.

        – Atizs
        8 hours ago





        @MisterPositive It makes a counter question, implying that the answer is obvious. OP came on forum to find out what others think, not to get patronized. There is nothing to work on here, really.

        – Atizs
        8 hours ago




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        @Atizs It also comes across as sarcastic and condescending.

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        @Atizs It also comes across as sarcastic and condescending.

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        HR seemed to be honest with you, they trusted you. As you describe the situation, you cannot do much to help your colleague.



        But if you inform him, there is a significant chance that you shoot yourself in the foot. As you already fear, HR will find out, and they will surely not be happy.



        In life, some things happen, and you cannot save everybody. Sad, but true. Let your colleague deal with his own problems, you deal with yours.






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        • That is the inclination I have as well, had he been rational in the past I would have hinted him to start looking for other jobs, but that hasn't been his record.

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          22 hours ago






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          Exactly as you say: he is not even to be trusted with the information. One very good reason to care about yourself first.

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          22 hours ago








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          Let's be more blunt here: if HR has told you to keep it to yourself, they can still rescind your offer if you don't comply. And in their shoes, frankly, I would too

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        HR seemed to be honest with you, they trusted you. As you describe the situation, you cannot do much to help your colleague.



        But if you inform him, there is a significant chance that you shoot yourself in the foot. As you already fear, HR will find out, and they will surely not be happy.



        In life, some things happen, and you cannot save everybody. Sad, but true. Let your colleague deal with his own problems, you deal with yours.






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        • That is the inclination I have as well, had he been rational in the past I would have hinted him to start looking for other jobs, but that hasn't been his record.

          – anon
          22 hours ago






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          Exactly as you say: he is not even to be trusted with the information. One very good reason to care about yourself first.

          – virolino
          22 hours ago








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          Let's be more blunt here: if HR has told you to keep it to yourself, they can still rescind your offer if you don't comply. And in their shoes, frankly, I would too

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        HR seemed to be honest with you, they trusted you. As you describe the situation, you cannot do much to help your colleague.



        But if you inform him, there is a significant chance that you shoot yourself in the foot. As you already fear, HR will find out, and they will surely not be happy.



        In life, some things happen, and you cannot save everybody. Sad, but true. Let your colleague deal with his own problems, you deal with yours.






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        HR seemed to be honest with you, they trusted you. As you describe the situation, you cannot do much to help your colleague.



        But if you inform him, there is a significant chance that you shoot yourself in the foot. As you already fear, HR will find out, and they will surely not be happy.



        In life, some things happen, and you cannot save everybody. Sad, but true. Let your colleague deal with his own problems, you deal with yours.







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        answered 23 hours ago









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        • That is the inclination I have as well, had he been rational in the past I would have hinted him to start looking for other jobs, but that hasn't been his record.

          – anon
          22 hours ago






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          Exactly as you say: he is not even to be trusted with the information. One very good reason to care about yourself first.

          – virolino
          22 hours ago








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          Let's be more blunt here: if HR has told you to keep it to yourself, they can still rescind your offer if you don't comply. And in their shoes, frankly, I would too

          – George M
          10 hours ago



















        • That is the inclination I have as well, had he been rational in the past I would have hinted him to start looking for other jobs, but that hasn't been his record.

          – anon
          22 hours ago






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          Exactly as you say: he is not even to be trusted with the information. One very good reason to care about yourself first.

          – virolino
          22 hours ago








        • 2





          Let's be more blunt here: if HR has told you to keep it to yourself, they can still rescind your offer if you don't comply. And in their shoes, frankly, I would too

          – George M
          10 hours ago

















        That is the inclination I have as well, had he been rational in the past I would have hinted him to start looking for other jobs, but that hasn't been his record.

        – anon
        22 hours ago





        That is the inclination I have as well, had he been rational in the past I would have hinted him to start looking for other jobs, but that hasn't been his record.

        – anon
        22 hours ago




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        Exactly as you say: he is not even to be trusted with the information. One very good reason to care about yourself first.

        – virolino
        22 hours ago







        Exactly as you say: he is not even to be trusted with the information. One very good reason to care about yourself first.

        – virolino
        22 hours ago






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        Let's be more blunt here: if HR has told you to keep it to yourself, they can still rescind your offer if you don't comply. And in their shoes, frankly, I would too

        – George M
        10 hours ago





        Let's be more blunt here: if HR has told you to keep it to yourself, they can still rescind your offer if you don't comply. And in their shoes, frankly, I would too

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        I see two problem statements here -




        • You know something which you should not have known. Somebody breached the rule and told you some information which you should protect now. My Suggestion is don't tell it to your friend or else he and you both will be in trouble. Even if you tell him this information, it is not going to help him out. He will confront HR and lose reference as well. He wasn't getting the job anyway.

        • 2nd, you want to help your colleague.
          Don't even hint it to the other person if he is not very close to him.
          Now, I would tell him that it is always a good idea to keep a backup plan if you don't get the job with the current organization. Also include that if offered, your first preference to take the job here. Again, don't bring up this conversation by yourself, but don't be afraid to tell him above in case he looks worried. If your colleague is not smart enough to take the hint, it is not your problem anymore.






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          I see two problem statements here -




          • You know something which you should not have known. Somebody breached the rule and told you some information which you should protect now. My Suggestion is don't tell it to your friend or else he and you both will be in trouble. Even if you tell him this information, it is not going to help him out. He will confront HR and lose reference as well. He wasn't getting the job anyway.

          • 2nd, you want to help your colleague.
            Don't even hint it to the other person if he is not very close to him.
            Now, I would tell him that it is always a good idea to keep a backup plan if you don't get the job with the current organization. Also include that if offered, your first preference to take the job here. Again, don't bring up this conversation by yourself, but don't be afraid to tell him above in case he looks worried. If your colleague is not smart enough to take the hint, it is not your problem anymore.






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            I see two problem statements here -




            • You know something which you should not have known. Somebody breached the rule and told you some information which you should protect now. My Suggestion is don't tell it to your friend or else he and you both will be in trouble. Even if you tell him this information, it is not going to help him out. He will confront HR and lose reference as well. He wasn't getting the job anyway.

            • 2nd, you want to help your colleague.
              Don't even hint it to the other person if he is not very close to him.
              Now, I would tell him that it is always a good idea to keep a backup plan if you don't get the job with the current organization. Also include that if offered, your first preference to take the job here. Again, don't bring up this conversation by yourself, but don't be afraid to tell him above in case he looks worried. If your colleague is not smart enough to take the hint, it is not your problem anymore.






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            I see two problem statements here -




            • You know something which you should not have known. Somebody breached the rule and told you some information which you should protect now. My Suggestion is don't tell it to your friend or else he and you both will be in trouble. Even if you tell him this information, it is not going to help him out. He will confront HR and lose reference as well. He wasn't getting the job anyway.

            • 2nd, you want to help your colleague.
              Don't even hint it to the other person if he is not very close to him.
              Now, I would tell him that it is always a good idea to keep a backup plan if you don't get the job with the current organization. Also include that if offered, your first preference to take the job here. Again, don't bring up this conversation by yourself, but don't be afraid to tell him above in case he looks worried. If your colleague is not smart enough to take the hint, it is not your problem anymore.







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                You should not tell your colleague.



                It's not your responsibility to tell them. Given that you called this person a colleague rather than friend, you don't seem to have emotional closeness to this person. You don't owe them anything. One of the best skills for a professional is discerning when it's best to mind your own business.



                Additionally, just because someone from HR told you, doesn't mean it's necessarily true. If you can't verify it, it's just gossip. Another great skill that will increase your professional value is not spreading gossip.






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                  You should not tell your colleague.



                  It's not your responsibility to tell them. Given that you called this person a colleague rather than friend, you don't seem to have emotional closeness to this person. You don't owe them anything. One of the best skills for a professional is discerning when it's best to mind your own business.



                  Additionally, just because someone from HR told you, doesn't mean it's necessarily true. If you can't verify it, it's just gossip. Another great skill that will increase your professional value is not spreading gossip.






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                    You should not tell your colleague.



                    It's not your responsibility to tell them. Given that you called this person a colleague rather than friend, you don't seem to have emotional closeness to this person. You don't owe them anything. One of the best skills for a professional is discerning when it's best to mind your own business.



                    Additionally, just because someone from HR told you, doesn't mean it's necessarily true. If you can't verify it, it's just gossip. Another great skill that will increase your professional value is not spreading gossip.






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                    You should not tell your colleague.



                    It's not your responsibility to tell them. Given that you called this person a colleague rather than friend, you don't seem to have emotional closeness to this person. You don't owe them anything. One of the best skills for a professional is discerning when it's best to mind your own business.



                    Additionally, just because someone from HR told you, doesn't mean it's necessarily true. If you can't verify it, it's just gossip. Another great skill that will increase your professional value is not spreading gossip.







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                        I definitely agree you should not tell the colleague, and that it could be a test.



                        Now, if you really feel bad about it, you might go side ways about it and tell the colleague how you are yourself looking for other opportunities just in case you wouldn't get hired.
                        Might be seen as a lie, but actually might even be something good for your to do: until you have a signed contract in your hands, you're not hired.






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                          if the plan is to accept an offer i would avoid actively telling any colleagues that you are looking to find other roles, that kind of thing will get back to the higher ups and could cost you the position you would of otherwise been offered.

                          – J.Doe
                          16 hours ago











                        • This was also what I was thinking, but I would frame it more like "Hey have you been looking around for any other jobs after this internship is over?" More of a hint that he should be looking rather than outright tell him that you are looking.

                          – JPhi1618
                          10 hours ago











                        • That should be a -response- to the other intern bringing up the topic, not something the OP brings up spontaneously. Unless he's a very good liar indeed and certain he can pull it off, and even then the other intern is bound to wonder why the OP would bring this up

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                          10 hours ago
















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                        I definitely agree you should not tell the colleague, and that it could be a test.



                        Now, if you really feel bad about it, you might go side ways about it and tell the colleague how you are yourself looking for other opportunities just in case you wouldn't get hired.
                        Might be seen as a lie, but actually might even be something good for your to do: until you have a signed contract in your hands, you're not hired.






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                          if the plan is to accept an offer i would avoid actively telling any colleagues that you are looking to find other roles, that kind of thing will get back to the higher ups and could cost you the position you would of otherwise been offered.

                          – J.Doe
                          16 hours ago











                        • This was also what I was thinking, but I would frame it more like "Hey have you been looking around for any other jobs after this internship is over?" More of a hint that he should be looking rather than outright tell him that you are looking.

                          – JPhi1618
                          10 hours ago











                        • That should be a -response- to the other intern bringing up the topic, not something the OP brings up spontaneously. Unless he's a very good liar indeed and certain he can pull it off, and even then the other intern is bound to wonder why the OP would bring this up

                          – George M
                          10 hours ago














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                        I definitely agree you should not tell the colleague, and that it could be a test.



                        Now, if you really feel bad about it, you might go side ways about it and tell the colleague how you are yourself looking for other opportunities just in case you wouldn't get hired.
                        Might be seen as a lie, but actually might even be something good for your to do: until you have a signed contract in your hands, you're not hired.






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                        I definitely agree you should not tell the colleague, and that it could be a test.



                        Now, if you really feel bad about it, you might go side ways about it and tell the colleague how you are yourself looking for other opportunities just in case you wouldn't get hired.
                        Might be seen as a lie, but actually might even be something good for your to do: until you have a signed contract in your hands, you're not hired.







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                        answered 17 hours ago









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                          if the plan is to accept an offer i would avoid actively telling any colleagues that you are looking to find other roles, that kind of thing will get back to the higher ups and could cost you the position you would of otherwise been offered.

                          – J.Doe
                          16 hours ago











                        • This was also what I was thinking, but I would frame it more like "Hey have you been looking around for any other jobs after this internship is over?" More of a hint that he should be looking rather than outright tell him that you are looking.

                          – JPhi1618
                          10 hours ago











                        • That should be a -response- to the other intern bringing up the topic, not something the OP brings up spontaneously. Unless he's a very good liar indeed and certain he can pull it off, and even then the other intern is bound to wonder why the OP would bring this up

                          – George M
                          10 hours ago














                        • 3





                          if the plan is to accept an offer i would avoid actively telling any colleagues that you are looking to find other roles, that kind of thing will get back to the higher ups and could cost you the position you would of otherwise been offered.

                          – J.Doe
                          16 hours ago











                        • This was also what I was thinking, but I would frame it more like "Hey have you been looking around for any other jobs after this internship is over?" More of a hint that he should be looking rather than outright tell him that you are looking.

                          – JPhi1618
                          10 hours ago











                        • That should be a -response- to the other intern bringing up the topic, not something the OP brings up spontaneously. Unless he's a very good liar indeed and certain he can pull it off, and even then the other intern is bound to wonder why the OP would bring this up

                          – George M
                          10 hours ago








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                        if the plan is to accept an offer i would avoid actively telling any colleagues that you are looking to find other roles, that kind of thing will get back to the higher ups and could cost you the position you would of otherwise been offered.

                        – J.Doe
                        16 hours ago





                        if the plan is to accept an offer i would avoid actively telling any colleagues that you are looking to find other roles, that kind of thing will get back to the higher ups and could cost you the position you would of otherwise been offered.

                        – J.Doe
                        16 hours ago













                        This was also what I was thinking, but I would frame it more like "Hey have you been looking around for any other jobs after this internship is over?" More of a hint that he should be looking rather than outright tell him that you are looking.

                        – JPhi1618
                        10 hours ago





                        This was also what I was thinking, but I would frame it more like "Hey have you been looking around for any other jobs after this internship is over?" More of a hint that he should be looking rather than outright tell him that you are looking.

                        – JPhi1618
                        10 hours ago













                        That should be a -response- to the other intern bringing up the topic, not something the OP brings up spontaneously. Unless he's a very good liar indeed and certain he can pull it off, and even then the other intern is bound to wonder why the OP would bring this up

                        – George M
                        10 hours ago





                        That should be a -response- to the other intern bringing up the topic, not something the OP brings up spontaneously. Unless he's a very good liar indeed and certain he can pull it off, and even then the other intern is bound to wonder why the OP would bring this up

                        – George M
                        10 hours ago











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                        Remember that scene from Matrix movie? About Neo visiting Oracle, once he quits Morpheus stopped Neo's attempt to share the visit results: "What was said was for you and for you alone".



                        So, you should take into account that HR can simply...




                        • ... check you "does he able to keep things in secret"

                        • ... trying to manipulate you "let him feel his importance, like he's Chosen one"

                        • And many other things you have no clue about yet


                        Anyway, from my point, this situation is not a good sign. Stay sharp.






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                          Remember that scene from Matrix movie? About Neo visiting Oracle, once he quits Morpheus stopped Neo's attempt to share the visit results: "What was said was for you and for you alone".



                          So, you should take into account that HR can simply...




                          • ... check you "does he able to keep things in secret"

                          • ... trying to manipulate you "let him feel his importance, like he's Chosen one"

                          • And many other things you have no clue about yet


                          Anyway, from my point, this situation is not a good sign. Stay sharp.






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                            Remember that scene from Matrix movie? About Neo visiting Oracle, once he quits Morpheus stopped Neo's attempt to share the visit results: "What was said was for you and for you alone".



                            So, you should take into account that HR can simply...




                            • ... check you "does he able to keep things in secret"

                            • ... trying to manipulate you "let him feel his importance, like he's Chosen one"

                            • And many other things you have no clue about yet


                            Anyway, from my point, this situation is not a good sign. Stay sharp.






                            share|improve this answer













                            Remember that scene from Matrix movie? About Neo visiting Oracle, once he quits Morpheus stopped Neo's attempt to share the visit results: "What was said was for you and for you alone".



                            So, you should take into account that HR can simply...




                            • ... check you "does he able to keep things in secret"

                            • ... trying to manipulate you "let him feel his importance, like he's Chosen one"

                            • And many other things you have no clue about yet


                            Anyway, from my point, this situation is not a good sign. Stay sharp.







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